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From Paul Libbrecht <>
Subject Re: [jelly] Re: unsatisfied dependencies in jelly demos
Date Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:54:02 GMT

On Vendredi, août 8, 2003, at 04:31 Europe/Paris, Henri Yandell wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, John Farrell wrote:
>> I get unsatisfied dependencies when I try to run the first tutorial. 
>> I checked
>> the JDBC jar on ibiblio, and it's just not there. Is there any point 
>> in
>> proceeding with jelly, or should I just go back to ant?
> Just to make sure you're aware of why you're hitting this problem:
> Maven used to support the distribution of jdbc and jms, but as these 
> are
> Sun licensed it was decided that having these on the maven global
> repository was against said licence.
> The Jelly tutorial needs updating probably, something that needs 
> jdbc/jms
> is no longer a good example.

I don't think JMS is part of the JDK, or is it ?
(JDBC is, indeed, but is it the last appropriate version?)

> Maybe the new Geronimo [Apache J2EE server] will provide such jars that
> can be on there.

??? I don't think...
The Sun licenses have always been a worry for me and they create these 
kind of effects of "non-distributable jars".

We can already be very happy that Apache Software Foundation has shaken 
Sun enough so that JAXP can be downloaded appropriately with all xerces 
and other xml-using downloads (almost all jakarta libraries for 

I fear the problem will stay eternally.
If there is someone of Sun in here, or of the respective JCP. (of 
JMS?). It would be useful to consider this more closely. At least, a 
formal request should be made for each of these dependencies I think.


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