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Subject: [jira] [Issue Comment Deleted] (TEXT-36) Dependency on "Commons
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> Dependency on "Commons RNG"
> ---------------------------
>
>                 Key: TEXT-36
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEXT-36
>             Project: Commons Text
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Gilles
>              Labels: api
>             Fix For: 1.0
>
>
> This is a follow-up of a [discussion|https://issues.apache.org/jira/brows=
e/TEXT-34?focusedCommentId=3D15762623&page=3Dcom.atlassian.jira.plugin.syst=
em.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15762623] held in TEXT-34.
> IMHO, there is no harm in depending on the ["commons-rng-client-api" modu=
le|http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng/commons-rng-client-api/java=
docs/api-1.0/index.html] of Commons RNG; the "zero dependency" mantra does =
not hold here, since TEXT already depends on LANG.
> OTOH, I see that it is counter-productive (i.e. it harms the Commons proj=
ect as a whole) to not advertize or use other Commons components, despite t=
he "own dog food" phrase appearing recurrently on the "dev" ML.
> Rather than having people blindly use {{java.util.Random}}, we should all=
ow them to choose wisely, based on full information.
> IMO, that means to indeed use {{UniformRandomProvider}} in order to raise=
 awareness about alternatives to the sub-optimal algorithm used by the JDK.
> However, if some Commons developers do not trust that the {{UniformRandom=
Provider}} interface can be stable enough for TEXT, then we should follow J=
ochen Wiedemann's advice (cf. archive of the "dev" ML) and define TEXT's ow=
n interface to random numbers, with bridges to it from {{UniformRandomProvi=
der}} and from {{java.util.Random}}.


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