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From Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [LANG] Releasing 3.6.1
Date Wed, 06 Sep 2017 10:55:49 GMT

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:34 AM, Amey Jadiye <ameyjadiye@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Looking at frequency I think more number of requests coming
> for RandomStringUtils for its simplicity.
> 
> RandomStringGenerator is strong , flexible but one can't use it quickly.
> Also I think this tool should belong in Commons text's arsenal. I'm not
> only moving RandomStringUtils  to text but changing its core logic with
> using
> RandomStringGenerator which seems fair to me. So finally we should release
> text-1.2 rather doing rollback of deprecation and release lang 3.6.1,  WDYT
> ?
> 

I definitely lean this direction, but if I recall correctly we drew “line between [lang]
and [text]” to be: a piece of functionality should go in [lang] if the arbitrary java developer
would probably want it, whereas text is geared towards folks actually doing text manipulation
[1].

Personally I’m a +0 to +1 on doing this, but I wanted to gauge other folks’ thoughts here
because I feel like we’re in that grey area here. That said, I’m perfectly willing to
roll a 1.2 [text] release.

Cheers,
-Rob

[1] http://markmail.org/message/a2urysnxvxihfoto

> Regards,
> Amey
> 
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017, 12:00 AM Rob Tompkins <chtompki@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Amey Jadiye <ameyjadiye@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Benedikt,
>>> 
>>> How about we keep that deprecated in lang and release Text-1.2 ?
>> [snip]
>> 
>> I’m on board with this if folks are complaining and the original intent
>> was to deprecate things in [lang]. Why not roll forward as opposed to
>> backwards?
>> 
>> But, that opens the question: Is RandomStringUtils something that most
>> folks would want (i.e. should it be in [lang] or [text])? I think that
>> question is more the heart of the problem here. Either direction seems
>> reasonable to me.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
>>> I will
>>> submit changes [1] related to this in fact i'm fixing couple of failing
>>> test cases ATM. If you are planning to release 3.6.1 just to remove
>>> deprecation and  deprecate RandomStringUtils back in Lang - 3.7 I'm fine
>>> with that as well.
>>> 
>>> [1]. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEXT-101
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> since we’re getting more and more requests about the deprecation of
>>>> RandomStringUtils, I’m thinking about releasing the current state of the
>>>> master branch as 3.6.1. I may have time to push an RC sometime this
>> week.
>>>> So if you have some fixes you want to include, please do so now.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Benedikt
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