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From Amey Jadiye <ameyjad...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Compiler targets and Java 9
Date Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:00:14 GMT
correct, moving to Java9 might be restricting 1.5 to run on higher
versions, that said they may not run on java 9 so all this discussion came
in picture, I wish we can have java 9 target well at the same time we
should detach our self from java 1.5, just a view.

Regards,
Amey

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:25 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5 June 2017 at 20:26, Amey Jadiye <ameyjadiye@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I have seen hundreds of applications which are in (maintenance+ little
> > enhancement) mode are already moved to higher versions of java ( >1.5 ),
> > even very legacy applications which are just in maintenance mode or
> marked
> > for decommission are already running on 1.6 as all know that there will
> be
> > no updates. there could be rarest of rare applications running on 1.5 and
> > sure they dont want move else they could have moved long back to 1.6 and
> > and rarely 1.5 will move to java8 or 9 ;)
> >
> > so yeah, why are we discussing support for Java 1.5 when not even the
> > vendors who ship it support it ? just move our modules for >=1.6.
>
> This thread is *not* about support for 1.5.
>
> It's about supporting Java 9, and what to do about components whose
> last release is 1.5 or earlier.
>
> That is very different.
>
> > Regards,
> > Amey
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:24 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This whole discussion has me really confused.  According to
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history <
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history> the free version of
> >> Java 5 reached end-of-life in 2009 and Oracle's supported version
> reached
> >> end-of-life in 2015. https://developer.ibm.com/
> javasdk/support/lifecycle/
> >> <https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/lifecycle/> doesn’t even
> show
> >> Java 5 any more but https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/
> >> forums/html/topic?id=77777777-0000-0000-0000-000014807464 <
> >> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/
> >> forums/html/topic?id=77777777-0000-0000-0000-000014807464> indicates
> that
> >> it also was dropped in 2015.
> >>
> >> So why are we discussing support for Java 1.5 when not even the vendors
> >> who ship it support it?
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jun 5, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Jochen Wiedmann <
> >> jochen.wiedmann@gmail.com <mailto:jochen.wiedmann@gmail.com>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:20 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>> I'd like us to be able to push out a new release with minimal
> changes
> >> >>>> at any given time. If we have, for example, 1.6 as the target,
and
> the
> >> >>>> previous
> >> >>>> release had 1.5 as the target, then we'd loose that ability,
IMO.
> >> >>>> (Think security releases.We've had quite a few in the past.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Understood, but I'm not sure why you feel the lack of a 1.6 release
> >> >>> would prevent a security release.
> >> >>> Surely we could just apply the fixes to the previously released
code
> >> >>> and change to 1.6 at the same time?
> >> >>
> >> >> Because the result clearly be binary incompatible to its predecessor,
> >> >> and that's the whole point of such an emergency release. We'd want
a
> >> >> drop-in replacement.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > If someone wants a fix for something that runs on 1.5, they are
> welcome
> >> to
> >> > provide a PR. I do not think we need to handcuff ourselves to Java 5.
> If
> >> > your runtime is stuck on Java 5, your likely to have other more
> pressing
> >> > security issues to address...
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Jochen
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.keystonedevelopment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ <
> >> http://www.keystonedevelopment.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/>
> >> >> evolution-of-the-wheel-300x85.jpg
> >> >>
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