Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECDD200C7E for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 15:53:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id EBD91160BC3; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 40AD2160BB6 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 15:53:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 19558 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2017 13:53:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 19536 invoked by uid 99); 23 May 2017 13:53:27 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 62BBFC0FD6 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.199 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=scarlet.be Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AZsxVqSFuMxf for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eir.is.scarlet.be (eir.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.27]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B3EC360E85 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1495547605; bh=kydGpwcLS2K7axfDYq/2IJHPzpxWd6VM1ftUrvb9apk=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To: Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID; b=wqz0BuGePMOFgYiQI7+mm6rz3Ja/wdDUo2jfOJrHImLyksSWj597xA9k+qB5JV0jg PKQTMvjEUgfFm274EuWpKb0RBMs98HhF0aMqvdX/WUWjiZ88rLZGWAYXSXAIQ3KtQV 48QEmMDlWdmjnv2JSLhTd1vEFmjSqR8d/zLXPua4= Received: from webmail.scarlet.be (gresham.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.215]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v4NDrOJi007984 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 15:53:25 +0200 X-Scarlet: d=1495547605 c=193.74.71.215 Received: from astropc12.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.138.26]) via astropc12.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.138.26]) by webmail.scarlet.be with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Tue, 23 May 2017 15:53:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 15:53:24 +0200 From: Gilles To: Subject: Re: [LANG] Thoughts about Lang 4.0 In-Reply-To: References: <775E823F-08D8-4954-8A0A-CDEFE4B0604C@apache.org> <8BBD2275-4B72-43FD-B3C8-F5F4733579DC@gmail.com> <3ca6dadc887de69d0467035caca97cb3@scarlet.be> Message-ID: <2973e8e4ee84e2761ee7c3a3134367cf@scarlet.be> X-Sender: gilles@harfang.homelinux.org User-Agent: Scarlet Webmail X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1-exp at eir X-Virus-Status: Clean archived-at: Tue, 23 May 2017 13:53:30 -0000 On Tue, 23 May 2017 15:33:39 +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Gilles > wrote: > >> Can you be explicit with what counts as "noise"? > > Lets start with the number of threads, shall we? Or the number of > "What depends on what" discussions? Or questions like "Which belongs > to what?" (Feel free to suggest another measure.) Everytime someone[1] complained about that, he got the same answer: it's easy to filter out unwanted threads. Aren't discussions supposed to happen here? "Noise" seems relative; from my POV, the flood of automatic posts (from git, GitHub, Jenkins, JIRA, Nexus) is much more annoying. Regards, Gilles [1] Me too. > > Jochen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org