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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [JELLY] State of the project (Was: [VOTE][LAZY] Move Apache Commons Jelly to dormant)
Date Fri, 19 May 2017 21:54:20 GMT
On 19 May 2017 at 22:02, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Oliver Heger <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de
>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thank you for looking into this.
>>
>> Am 18.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Benedikt Ritter:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >> Am 17.05.2017 um 19:38 schrieb Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> I think that we could, as a community test of interest, say something
>> like,
>> >> if Oliver wants to push out what is in trunk in the next 30 days or so
>> (or
>> >> 60 or 90), we will help. I would help with odds and ends. Aside from
>> that,
>> >> if no one cares enough to "do", then let's hibernate it.
>> >
>> > I’m currently having a look at the code base. There is a lot of work to
>> do. I’m currently trying to fix the build to republish the website. Here
>> are the things I discovered:
>> >
>> > - dependencies are out dated
>> > - mixture of build files: build.xml, project.xml, maven.xml, pom.xml
>> (can we drop all but pom.xml?)
>> Yes, IMHO keeping only pom.xml should be fine.
>>
>> > - missing maven plugin „maven-jellydoc-plugin“. It seems to be part of
>> the code base, but the build is not configured to generate it
>> > - strange structure of the project with several source folders (src and
>> jelly-tags)
>> Somehow the tag libs were treated as separate modules, but probably in a
>> layout compliant to Maven 1.x.
>>
>> >
>> > But these are all things that can be fixed, given people find the time
>> to work on this :-)
>> >
>> We might also think about the minimum Java version we want to support.
>> As the project has been unmaintained for such a long time, I assume we
>> are pretty free to switch to a modern version as nobody expects an update.
>>
>> It might even be beneficial to switch to Java 8. I can imagine that
>> lambda syntax could be used in an elegant way to create simple tags.
>>
>
> I would be nice to flush out what we have now in a release with the same
> Java requirement, and then switch to Java 8.

+1

> Gary
>
>
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> > Regards,
>> > Benedikt
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey guys,
>> >>>
>> >>> this is just the reaction I’m looking for. I think it is important
to
>> poke
>> >>> in the hole every once in a while and see if anybody is still
>> interested in
>> >>> a component. If you have intends to work on Jelly, there is no reason
>> to
>> >>> move it to dormant.
>> >>>
>> >>> I’ll wait for the 72 hours to pass anyway to see whether there are
even
>> >>> more people who still need jelly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Benedikt
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 17.05.2017 um 15:46 schrieb Bruno P. Kinoshita <kinow@apache.org>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ditto for my -1. I've always wanted to move Jenkins fork patches
back
>> to
>> >>> Jelly, but last time I worked on it Mavenizing the project and its
>> >>> components took too much time.
>> >>>> Bruno
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:34, Oliver Heger<oliver.heger@oliver-
>> heger.de>
>> >>> wrote:   Hm,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> being a user of Jelly, I have the long-term goal to contribute to
the
>> >>>> project because I have indeed some itch to scratch, but unfortunately
>> >>>> never got to it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So I am -1, but I cannot promise that I can work on Jelly in the
near
>> >>>> future.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Oliver
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 17.05.2017 um 20:26 schrieb Benedikt Ritter:
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think we should move Apache Commons Jelly to dormant for the
>> >>> following reasons:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - Jelly hasn’t seen any activity in a while. There haven’t
been any
>> >>> relevant commits since 2010 (I didn’t search the history further than
>> that…)
>> >>>>> - The last release dates back to 2005.
>> >>>>> - There is no activity in Jira or on our mailing lists.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For this reason I’m calling a vote by lazy consensus for moving
>> Apache
>> >>> Commons Jelly to dormant. This vote will pass if nobody objects within
>> the
>> >>> next 72 hours, e.g. after 20-May 2017 14:30 EDT (UTC-4).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>> Benedikt
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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