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From Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [JELLY] State of the project (Was: [VOTE][LAZY] Move Apache Commons Jelly to dormant)
Date Fri, 19 May 2017 21:02:38 GMT
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Oliver Heger <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> thank you for looking into this.
>
> Am 18.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Benedikt Ritter:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Am 17.05.2017 um 19:38 schrieb Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> I think that we could, as a community test of interest, say something
> like,
> >> if Oliver wants to push out what is in trunk in the next 30 days or so
> (or
> >> 60 or 90), we will help. I would help with odds and ends. Aside from
> that,
> >> if no one cares enough to "do", then let's hibernate it.
> >
> > I’m currently having a look at the code base. There is a lot of work to
> do. I’m currently trying to fix the build to republish the website. Here
> are the things I discovered:
> >
> > - dependencies are out dated
> > - mixture of build files: build.xml, project.xml, maven.xml, pom.xml
> (can we drop all but pom.xml?)
> Yes, IMHO keeping only pom.xml should be fine.
>
> > - missing maven plugin „maven-jellydoc-plugin“. It seems to be part of
> the code base, but the build is not configured to generate it
> > - strange structure of the project with several source folders (src and
> jelly-tags)
> Somehow the tag libs were treated as separate modules, but probably in a
> layout compliant to Maven 1.x.
>
> >
> > But these are all things that can be fixed, given people find the time
> to work on this :-)
> >
> We might also think about the minimum Java version we want to support.
> As the project has been unmaintained for such a long time, I assume we
> are pretty free to switch to a modern version as nobody expects an update.
>
> It might even be beneficial to switch to Java 8. I can imagine that
> lambda syntax could be used in an elegant way to create simple tags.
>

I would be nice to flush out what we have now in a release with the same
Java requirement, and then switch to Java 8.

Gary


>
> Oliver
>
> > Regards,
> > Benedikt
> >
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> this is just the reaction I’m looking for. I think it is important to
> poke
> >>> in the hole every once in a while and see if anybody is still
> interested in
> >>> a component. If you have intends to work on Jelly, there is no reason
> to
> >>> move it to dormant.
> >>>
> >>> I’ll wait for the 72 hours to pass anyway to see whether there are even
> >>> more people who still need jelly.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Benedikt
> >>>
> >>>> Am 17.05.2017 um 15:46 schrieb Bruno P. Kinoshita <kinow@apache.org>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ditto for my -1. I've always wanted to move Jenkins fork patches back
> to
> >>> Jelly, but last time I worked on it Mavenizing the project and its
> >>> components took too much time.
> >>>> Bruno
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:34, Oliver Heger<oliver.heger@oliver-
> heger.de>
> >>> wrote:   Hm,
> >>>>
> >>>> being a user of Jelly, I have the long-term goal to contribute to the
> >>>> project because I have indeed some itch to scratch, but unfortunately
> >>>> never got to it.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I am -1, but I cannot promise that I can work on Jelly in the near
> >>>> future.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oliver
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 17.05.2017 um 20:26 schrieb Benedikt Ritter:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think we should move Apache Commons Jelly to dormant for the
> >>> following reasons:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Jelly hasn’t seen any activity in a while. There haven’t been
any
> >>> relevant commits since 2010 (I didn’t search the history further than
> that…)
> >>>>> - The last release dates back to 2005.
> >>>>> - There is no activity in Jira or on our mailing lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For this reason I’m calling a vote by lazy consensus for moving
> Apache
> >>> Commons Jelly to dormant. This vote will pass if nobody objects within
> the
> >>> next 72 hours, e.g. after 20-May 2017 14:30 EDT (UTC-4).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Benedikt
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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