Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFA2200C54 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:39:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 2C606160BA8; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 75BCB160B85 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:39:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 82113 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2017 17:39:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 82088 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2017 17:39:43 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 789B71857B9 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=scarlet.be Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WG607o2OQkDO for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eir.is.scarlet.be (eir.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.27]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 98D895FC4A for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1492018778; bh=+LyLREQ5w5AeRKyMkRIZBveRgHFH+6lZ9iItQbe+v/s=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To: Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID; b=A/eQxAqEOoKLVdnG8mg8cPABrfN+ejU/YcotxnlXrFPQHav7WxzSV0WKy/g0MnDfd N+ODUPA7Ylv8jxbqdKV8JNreIYIjN97DSvS7sJz1MhtFzm2FlVTCmEmN8U7QHfyzBJ 7NLoKwUVlgSvrdJdvEBaVHj62WHmkx6sV8vUPy/w= Received: from webmail.scarlet.be (gresham.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.215]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v3CHdbAx029533 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:39:38 +0200 X-Scarlet: d=1492018778 c=193.74.71.215 Received: from ip-213-49-64-185.dsl.scarlet.be ([213.49.64.185]) via ip-213-49-64-185.dsl.scarlet.be ([213.49.64.185]) by webmail.scarlet.be with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:39:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:39:37 +0200 From: Gilles To: Subject: Re: [ALL] The Commons Math issue In-Reply-To: <64923211-fe69-c3c9-6e69-fee4cc235b85@apache.org> References: <7741f8faca4f72ab4495d014ef391d30@scarlet.be> <092eb8ff7a910cc0628e7ffb7b905391@scarlet.be> <38faf204-3bcd-2215-0489-66e6c16b6158@apache.org> <9ad169e8e30a32ec7faf322992326fec@scarlet.be> <64923211-fe69-c3c9-6e69-fee4cc235b85@apache.org> Message-ID: <80a74cc0660cc6f16a50fa09f07153a5@scarlet.be> X-Sender: gilles@harfang.homelinux.org User-Agent: Scarlet Webmail X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1-exp at eir X-Virus-Status: Clean archived-at: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:39:46 -0000 On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 18:25:03 +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > On 04/12/2017 05:29 PM, Gilles wrote: > >> Do you actually prefer advertizing a non-Apache project rather than >> having the PMC support its own developers in any which way it could? > > If nobody is able to maintain commons-math I have no objection > recommending an alternative, especially one that is derived from > commons-math, has the same license and an open development process. The issue here is that an "in-house" solution has been proposed, based on time-consuming work on the part of developers still contributing here. The PMC members should logically (?) favour any proper endeavour that attempts to keep _this_ community alive. For functionality that requires expertise not existing anymore around here, it would be fine though, of course. Thus I ask that we make a list of such functionality before dismissing the local goodwill as if it didn't exist. > The minimal support you can expect from the PMC members is people > voting > on the releases, and if there is no show stopper like binary > incompatibilities, awful regressions or improperly licensed code, the > vote will be a non-issue. > > >> How can you be so sure? The last releases did not elicit an awful >> lot >> of votes; and that is for components that do not raise objections >> about >> their mere existence. > > Give it a try? OK for small, focused, components? Gilles > > Emmanuel Bourg > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org