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From Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons JCS 2.0-beta-2 based on RC2
Date Tue, 08 Nov 2016 06:24:23 GMT
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Oliver Heger <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> sorry, I don't want to stand in the way of the release. It is just that
> in the past we used to be very careful with artifacts deployed to Maven
> central and their compatibility. When I did alpha and beta releases for
> [configuration] 2.0 it was decided that these artifacts must not be
> published to Maven central because incompatibilities between succeeding
> alphas/betas or the final 2.0 version are likely.
>
> If the JCS betas are going to Maven central, I therefore assumed that
> some means were taken to deal with incompatibilities. Otherwise, if some
> 3rd party project has the (stupid) idea to depend on such a beta, we are
> in jar hell.
>

That is a risk indeed. The alternatives would be:

 - Release betas under a beta package name
 - Not release betas at all but just tag the software in svn/git. This
makes is effectively impossible to use from Maven/Ivy/AndSoOn.

Gary

>
> Oliver
>
> Am 05.11.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > There is no need to maintain BC since 2.0 is not out. Changing package
> > names and Maven coordinates must also happen hand in hand. Changing one
> > means changing the other.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2016 1:37 PM, "Thomas Vandahl" <tv@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Oliver,
> >>
> >> On 05.11.16 21:18, Oliver Heger wrote:
> >>> It seems that there are many breaking changes between this release and
> >>> beta1; for instance, the clirr report for the core component lists
> >>> numerous errors. Is it not against Commons policy to publish
> >>> incompatible artifacts with the same maven and package coordinates to
> >>> Maven central?
> >>
> >> I thought that is why we call it "beta"? It basically boils down again
> >> to the question what should be considered a public API (which btw hasn't
> >> changed since beta-1).
> >> I have no problem with changing the coordinates but I'm pretty sure that
> >> the next iteration to 2.0 final will introduce more incompatibilities
> >> and we may run out of coordinates...
> >>
> >> As I see it, we are still in the transition from 1.3
> >> (org.apache.jcs:jcs) to 2.0 (org.apache.commons.jcs:commons-jcs-core)
> >> but I'm ready to change whatever is necessary to get this out of the
> door.
> >>
> >> Bye, Thomas.
> >>
> >>
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