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From Oliver Heger <>
Subject Re: [VOTE][RC2] Release "Apache Commons RNG" version 1.0
Date Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:36:44 GMT

Am 17.09.2016 um 18:13 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> Hi All,
> Gilles: I can see you are frustrated by the late comments and opinions when
> the code has been sitting in the repo for all to see. I hope we can resolve
> all of this amicably.
> All: We have only one shot at 1.0, this will set the tone for a 1.x line.
> If things change/mature/break enough then it becomes 2.0, but if it happens
> too soon, then it might give the impression that our process is not mature.
> It seems we have a difference of opinion as to whether the current code is
> ready for 1.0.
> Now that we have both sides engaged in this discussion, we can try to
> resolve these differences in email agreements or in code changes. Maybe the
> -1 party could create Jiras to address specific issues, or should all this
> happen on the ML?

Currently only Gilles responded to the proposals of Emmanuel. I would
also be interested in the PoV of the other developers.


> From my experience, when I or someone finds any problem with an RC I
> rolled, I sigh, cancel, and redo; but not before complaining to myself that
> if there where not 50 steps to do a release, it would be less of a pain.
> Gary
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Emmanuel Bourg <> wrote:
>> Le 17/09/2016 à 13:34, Gilles a écrit :
>>> Your behaviour is in blatant contradiction with the Apache
>>> motto, and this project's chair mantra (RERO), which is
>>> truly ignored by the facts.
>> RERO isn't the Apache motto (and I'm not opposed to a release, I'm
>> opposed to declaring the current code as final and well polished).
>> Apache is actually focused on consensus and collaborative work, your
>> behavior goes against that.
>>> [1] Work with me towards modularity.
>> No thanks, I'm not interested in working with someone not open to
>> others' views. If even formatting a table properly is an issue for you
>> there is little I can do.
>> Emmanuel Bourg
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