Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56FE200AE4 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:12:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id A141D160A5A; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id E7ED4160A38 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 27079 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jun 2016 10:12:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 27068 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jun 2016 10:12:02 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:12:02 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com (mail-wm0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 3814C1A02E4 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id r201so18744428wme.1 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 03:12:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJZC+0AWyjw4ZcGCf0Ml5oeXNLuMMq9RyxZzEqvAu2B2yjaCtAJ//9HDGM5sepFG7CPh1dkTYbFY/ae0w== X-Received: by 10.28.228.86 with SMTP id b83mr4894484wmh.11.1466763121106; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 03:12:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.1.151 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 03:11:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [130.88.195.197] In-Reply-To: References: From: Stian Soiland-Reyes Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:11:41 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [all] Rethinking dev@ To: Commons Developers List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 archived-at: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:12:04 -0000 Agreed, I think multiple lists would be great for everyone else who is not on the Commons PMC; in fact that was a major reason why Commons RDF went to the Incubator first, to have its own mailing lists in the constructive phase. However it could be very fragmenting for the PMC as there's the danger of developing the "Crypto PMC", "Math PMC" etc - effectively making an Apache within Apache. We should not forget the Jakarta learning either. Perhaps if all PMC members agree to stay on all of the sub-lists, and all release votes are done on dev@commons, then it could work well. On 24 June 2016 at 11:00, Benson Margulies wrote: > The 'problem of Jakarta' was a problem of supervision. The board could > not trust that anyone was minding the entire store. Multiple mailing > lists could be seen as an indication that commons is large and diverse > enough to risk suffering from the same problem. Some would think that > this desire to give it its own mailing list is a strong indication > that it should be its own TLP. That being said, launching a mailing > list just for the purpose of hashing out the future of Math might be a > compromise. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > -- Stian Soiland-Reyes Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org