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To: Commons Developers List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cec0afcd55d053538b837 archived-at: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:23:49 -0000 --001a113cec0afcd55d053538b837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Gangumalla, Uma wrote: > Then next release(after 1.0.0) must be a major release you mean? > If there are no potential users looking for JDK 1.6, dropping now should > be good idea IMO. > > I also remembered that we wanted to mark 1.0.0 release as Alpha right? > (just a question) > 1.0 is 1.0. If we want an alpha, we must label is as such, for example 1.0-alpha1, 1.0-beta1. There is no 1.0 is an alpha and 1.1 is a "real" release. Gary > > Regards, > Uma > > On 6/14/16, 12:27 AM, "Sun, Dapeng" wrote: > > >Thank Gary, Benedikt, Marcelo, sebb, James, Jochen, ecki, Ralph and Matt > >for all your input. > > > >How about make a conservative decision: regarding the first > >release(1.0.0), we keep the JDK version as 1.6, and we wouldn't support > >JDK 1.6 for the releases after 1.0.0. > > > >Regards > >Dapeng > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Matt Sicker [mailto:boards@gmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 6:18 AM > >To: Commons Developers List > >Subject: Re: [crypto] On Java 6, really? > > > >I'd imagine that close to 100% of users who are on Java 6 are not > >upgrading anything else, either, nor would they be adding in new > >dependencies. Every Java 6 project I've come across lately has been in > >legacy maintenance mode (just like Java 6 itself). > > > >On 7 June 2016 at 16:47, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > >> Let's not forget that customers are paying Oracle to get Java 6 update= s. > >> > >> Gary > >> On Jun 7, 2016 1:24 PM, "Ralph Goers" > >>wrote: > >> > >> > I really don=C2=B9t think the premier & extended support dates shoul= d > >> > really mean much, except as an indicator of how many users of that > >> > version might still exist. Basically, no new features are going to > >> > be added to Java > >> so I > >> > don=C2=B9t think we should be targeting new features there either. I= f > >> > there > >> is a > >> > bug that needs to be fixed it should be possible to do it on a > >> > branch of the the release for that version of Java. The web site > >> > should clearly indicate which versions of the component support the > >> > appropriate Java versions. > >> > > >> > Ralph > >> > > >> > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 12:26 PM, sebb wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I have just checked Oracle support for Java 6. > >> > > > >> > > The Support Life for Java 6 has been extended to Dec 2018 [1] I > >> > > think this means that there are critical systems that cannot yet > >> > > be updated to Java 7+. > >> > > > >> > > This does not mean that we should ensure that all Commons code > >> > > still works on Java 6. > >> > > But it should be taken into account when evaluating the pros and > >> > > cons of requiring a later version. > >> > > > >> > > [1] > >> > > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html#extended6 > >> > > > >> > > On 7 June 2016 at 20:02, Jochen Wiedmann > >> > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> Gary Gregory wrote on Tue., 7. Juni > >> > >>> 2016 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> Are we really starting a new component on a dead platform like > >> > >>>> Java > >> 6? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> You are, of course, right, that the component is more than > >> > >> welcome to use another version. OTOH, given our latest > >> > >> experiences: Is this really someting, that we should care for? > >> > >> IMO, let the component have, whatever they want. > >> > >> > >> > >> Jochen > >> > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> ---- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Matt Sicker > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > > --=20 E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition JUnit in Action, Second Edition Spring Batch in Action Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory --001a113cec0afcd55d053538b837--