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From Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
Subject Re: [ALL] Volunteers for a Math IPMC?
Date Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:28:27 GMT
This thread seems to have died. I am confused why no proposal has been created. 7 people is
certainly enough to propose something. Or is the desire simply to remain a subproject of Commons?

Ralph

> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Niall Pemberton <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Gilles <gilles@harfang.homelinux.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 11:53:37 -0500, Matt Benson wrote:
>> 
> 
>>> I think it is indicative of the position held by many, myself included,
>>> that a set of focused, math-related artifacts do not make sense at the
>>> Commons component level, and should be grouped as separate artifacts of
>>> Commons math or a TLP with the same basic structure.
>>> 
>> 
>> We are getting close to the real problem.
>> 
>> Can we draw the conclusion, at last, that Commons Math does not make
>> sense in Commons?  [I'd hope so; since you make the point that even a
>> general functionality like random number generation would not make
>> sense here, then a monolithic library (with all sorts of math-related
>> functionalities) makes even less sense here.]
>> 
>> So I think that we could summarize the situation as follows:
>> * -1 for new components (Commons refuses)
>> * -1 for TLP (Commons refuses)
>> * -1 for incubator (until the situation is "clarified")
>> * -1 for no change (no committer left)
> 
> 
> There are two routes to a Math TLP - either directly (by board resolution)
> or via the Incubator. No-one here can veto either of those routes and with
> both routes the first thing to do would be to put together a proposal [1].
> The ASF board decides whether they will accept the "direct to TLP" route -
> and its usually based on having an existing experienced viable community.
> If thats not possible, then the route through the incubator is the
> alternative. Either way, you need to gather the people interested and write
> a proposal, which from the various threads looks like the following:
> 
> - Gilles Sadowski
> - James Carmen
> - Gary Gregory   http://markmail.org/message/ydtkgvazec5bhzdk
> - Jochen Weidman   http://markmail.org/message/gbfqfppf4u3unqo4
> - Rob Tomkins   http://markmail.org/message/suq3ihvuqppinspf
> - Eric Barnhill   http://markmail.org/message/6wgf5rtcario2teb
> - Artem Barger   http://markmail.org/message/akfekuxp5ujyhbr3
> 
> Is there anyone else?
> 
> Niall
> 
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gilles
>> 
>> 



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