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From Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [math] Name of the new TLP
Date Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:03 GMT
I like any name that is simple (It's also good if it has a nice ring to it).  If we are hoping
to incorporate more modules from other projects then perhaps 'apache-davinci'?  I like 'apache-epsilon'
as well.

On 01/25/2016 05:40 AM, sebb wrote:
> On 25 January 2016 at 09:28, luc <luc@spaceroots.org> wrote:
>> Le 2016-01-25 08:52, Benedikt Ritter a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I very much like the idea of taking the name of a famous mathematician.
> In which case it has to be
>
> Euclid or Pythagoras (early)
> or
> Paul Erdős - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number
>
> and everyone has heard of
> John Nash (Beautiful Mind)
>
> etc.
> In the spirit of recent discussions, how about a RNG to pick the
> mathematician's name for each next incarnation?
>
> ;-)
>
>>> If it has to be some thing more descriptive: Apache Commons HttpClient
>>> went
>>> to Apache HttpComponents. How about Apache Math Components as TLP name?
> I quite like Apache Epsilon as a non-descriptive but related name.
>
> [ducks behind bikshed]
>
>>> Benedikt
>>>
>>> 2016-01-25 8:40 GMT+01:00 Ole Ersoy <ole.ersoy@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Umbrella-ish is good.  Linear algebra, genetic algorithms, neural
>>>> networks, clustering, monte carlo, simplex...These need an umbrella.
>>>> Some
>>>> of the other Apache projects that do math may be interested in moving
>>>> that
>>>> piece under the Apache Math umbrella.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I like to see each in a separate repository dedicated to the
>>>> subject, along with the corresponding documentation, etc  So:
>>>> apache-math (Central repository describing the project as a whole with
>>>> the
>>>> documentation that cuts across modules)
>>>> apache-math-linear-real
>>>> apache-math-linear-field
>>>> apache-math-optimization-genetic
>>>> apache-math-optimization-simplex
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> And hopefully:
>>>> apache-math-optimization-integer
>>>> apache-math-optimization-mixed
>>>> And more..
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/24/2016 04:41 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Gilles <gilles@harfang.homelinux.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just plain and simple "Apache Math" maybe?
>>>>>> Or is it taken already?
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's not taken; but I thought it was too broad-sounding and in fact
>>>>> umbrella-ish.  There are other ASF projects that do math-relates things.
>>>>> I
>>>>> think adding "components" makes it look more like a library of base
>>>>> components that other math-related projects can use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gilles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:46:17 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/24/16 2:16 PM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on the scope of what the new TLP is going
to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is slightly jumping the gun, as we do have the opportunity
in
>>>>>>> forming the new TLP to revisit the initial goals of [math]; but
I
>>>>>>> suspect that initially at least we will mostly continue to be
a
>>>>>>> general-purpose Java math library, trying to provide IP-clean,
>>>>>>> easily integrated, standard algorithm-based solutions to common
math
>>>>>>> programming problems.  We have grown to the point where we will
>>>>>>> almost certainly break the distribution up into separate
>>>>>>> "components."  No umbrella, but likely multiple release artifacts.
>>>>>>> Similar in some ways to what happened with [http], which is why
I
>>>>>>> suggested the same approach to naming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding picking a mathematician for the name, I don't much
like
>>>>>>> that idea as whoever you choose, you end up loading some math
area
>>>>>>> and / or cultural bias into the name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Umbrella projects aren't that popular these days, from what
I
>>>>>>>> understand.
>>>>>>>> Maybe an homage to a famous mathematician? Apache Newton?
Apache
>>>>>>>> Euler?
>>>>>>>> Apache Euclid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:08 PM Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need to agree on a name.  My own preference is for
a boring,
>>>>>>>>> descriptive name, but I am manifestly not a marketing
guy, so won't
>>>>>>>>> be offended if others want to be more creative.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MathComponents
>>
>> I would be happy with either Math Components or Math.
>> Also I do favor fancy acronyms that read exactly as well known
>> names (23 years ago, the name of my first mathematics library was
>> an acronym that read "Cantor"), it is probably not a good idea for
>> this new TLP.
>>
>> In any case, the project will most probably be de facto an umbrella
>> project as modularizing it seems in the current mood.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Luc
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> Hearkens back to HttpComponents, which has worked pretty
well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>>>>
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