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From Ole Ersoy <>
Subject Re: [math] TLP
Date Thu, 14 Jan 2016 02:04:39 GMT
I love the idea.  I also think commons will get a lot more eye balls if it gets all the repositories
on github and enables the watch button as well as github issues.


On 01/13/2016 07:24 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects in
> Commons, that's not an issue IMO, just good project design.
> My main worry is more on the overall health of Commons or perception that
> [math] is "leaving" Commons, the more eyeballs on Commons the better.
> Gary
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Phil Steitz <> wrote:
>> I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level
>> project at the ASF.  This has been proposed before, and I have
>> always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now
>> convinced that it is a good step for us to take for the following
>> reasons:
>> 0) We have several committers who are really only interested in
>> [math], so being on the Commons PMC does not really make sense for them
>> 1) The code base has swollen in size to well beyond the "small sharp
>> tools" that make up the bulk of Commons
>> 2) We are probably at the point where we should consider splitting
>> [math] itself into separately released subcomponents (could be done
>> in Commons, but starts smelling a little Jakarta-ish when Commons
>> has components with subcomponents).
>> The downsides are
>> a) [newPMC] loses Commons eyeballs / contributors who would not find
>> us otherwise
>> b) Migration / repackaging pain
>> c) Overhead of starting and managing a PMC
>> d) Other Commons components lose some eyeballs
>> Personally, I think the benefits outweigh the downsides at this
>> point.  New better tools and ASF processes have made b) and c) a
>> little less onerous.  I don't think d) is really a big problem for
>> Commons, as those of us who work on other stuff here could continue
>> to do so.  It is possible that a) actually works in the reverse
>> direction - i.e., we are easier to find as a TLP.
>> What do others think about this?
>> Phil
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