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From Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goes...@it20one.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Naomi
Date Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:50:05 GMT
Hi Uwe,

I would not say commonly used but this is an option for smaller projects to find a home -
and Apache Commons Sandbox IS the incubator of Apache Commons. 

To make the things clearer 

* checkout commons-email or commons-exec (Disclaimer - I contributed to both projects)
* commons-email actually stems from Apache Turbine and was probably promoted to a regular
component quickly
* commons-exec was a dormant in the sandbox for some time before there was enough activity
to justify a regular Apache Commons component
* both can be considered useful but there are not sexy (actually you could call them outright
boring), have little code and get an occasionally a release
* as Apache Commons committer you have a SVN karma for all components

Cheers,

Siegfried Goeschl




> On 31 Oct 2015, at 11:35, Uwe Barthel <barthel@x-reizend.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Siegfried,
> 
> Thanks for your clarification.
> 
> It's really commonly use to bypass the incubator for small projects to become Apache
Commons subproject status?
> 
> I’m a contributor and not deeply involved to assimilate new projects in ASF. Thats
is, why I vote with zero.
> 
> mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Uwe Barthel
> -- 
> barthel@x-reizend.de
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 11:01, Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com>
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Uwe,
>> 
>> for such small components Apache incubator is sort of overkill - setup can be daunting
and Naomi is unlikely to attract a large community. That’s the reason why small potential
ASF projects are looking for an umbrella project and Apache Commons is designed to be such
an umbrella project - AFAIK every ASF committer has commit rights on sandbox components (anyone
out there who knows that for sure)
>> 
>> In other words - if Naomi becomes ASF it should be Apache Commons
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Siegfried Goeschl
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 10:28, Uwe Barthel <barthel@x-reizend.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [x] -0 OK, but…
>>> 
>>> … on going over Incubator instead.
>>> It gives the chance to grow up a community and re-invite the code and documentation.
>>> 
>>> I’m with Benedikt pointing to the rock-star-thing and people behind the ASF.
>>> Why not use the Incubator as described by the ASF[1]?
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator
>>> 
>>> mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>> Uwe Barthel
>>> -- 
>>> barthel@x-reizend.de
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Oct 2015, at 01:42, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is a VOTE to accept the code discussed in [1] and available for
>>>> review using the git commands below.  All are welcome to vote, votes
>>>> from PMC members are binding.  Assuming a positive vote, we will
>>>> execute a software grant with the authors and use the code as the
>>>> basis for a new Commons Sandbox component. 
>>>> 
>>>> This VOTE will close in 72 hours.  More discussion on the code and
>>>> its fit in Commons is always welcome, but please do not reply to
>>>> this thread with discussion, other than embedded justification for
>>>> negative VOTES.  Use the thread from [1] instead.
>>>> 
>>>> Git commands to grab the code:
>>>> 
>>>> git clone git@github.com:NormanShapiro/Naomi.git
>>>> git checkout gh-pages
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/imoi5aipf63f7rsa
>>>> 
>>>> [ ] +1 Yes!
>>>> [ ] +0 OK...
>>>> [ ] -0 OK, but...
>>>> [ ] -1 We should not do this, because...
>>>> 
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