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From Dave Brosius <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Naomi
Date Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:03:46 GMT

I understand where your opinions come from, and respect your arguments. 
I generally agree with your sentiments, that run of the mill 'github 
projects' should not be added to Apache willy-nilly.

I think this contribution however is not the run-of-the-mill type, nor 
are the contributors. Both Norm and Jeff are retiring engineers with 
long and distinquished careers, having made _significant_ contributions 
to computer science. That they would like to contribute something to 
Apache, i take as quite an honor, myself. Your concerns over how will a 
community be built, and what level of involvement will the original 
authors give, is normally quite valid, but in this case, begs for some 

This project is really quite promising, in my opinion. That it is a bit 
rough around the edges, is valid, but that it is a fluent, ease of use 
library over a potentially difficult area is really what Apache tends to 
do quite often. Apache as an organization is good at taking good ideas 
that perhaps are not in perfect shape, and turning them into 
professional libraries. This is something this library would do well for.

I certainly respect your opinion, but would ask that you reconsider, if 


On 10/30/2015 07:06 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
> Le 30/10/2015 01:42, Phil Steitz a écrit :
>> [X] -1 We should not do this, because...
> Sorry I feel this is going too fast. I don't think Apache Commons should
> turn into a forge hosting any small project asking to join. I see more
> Apache Commons as a ground for gathering libraries developed in other
> Apache projects. I don't think we should turn into a Github alternative
> with the Apache brand.
> Emmanuel Bourg
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