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From Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [RDF] grant Commons RDF (incubating) permission to deploy artifacts to org.apache.commons groupId
Date Tue, 05 May 2015 00:48:45 GMT
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> On May 4, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 2015-05-04 18:46 GMT+02:00 Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com>:
> 
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 5/3/15 11:56 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Sergio Fernández <wikier@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> we're discussing our first incubating release, and we came to the
>> issue
>>>>> that we are not grant with permissions to deploy maven artifacts to
>> the
>>>>> org.apache.commons groupId [1].
>>>> Why org.apache.commons, and not, say, org.apache.commons.rdf? The
>>>> former seems overly broad to me.
>>> 
>>> Could be we should have gone that way years ago when we moved to
>>> org.apache.commons:commons-foo; but that ship has sailed, so I think
>>> its best to stay consistent with the rest of the components and
>>> proceed as proposed.
>> 
>> Some rambling thoughts (tm):
>> 
>> I like to 'fix' things too but I was on the fence about this one until now.
>> Yes, there is a redundancy because the substring 'commons' is in the
>> AID/GID twice; but that is OK I claim. Why? The GID is the TLP ID, so of
>> course we have o.a.commons, that's a must. The AID is the component, which
>> I always call Commons Foo, and sometimes Apache Commons Foo when I want to
>> make it clear to folks (at work for example) that I am talking about
>> software hosted at Apache. If I were to talk within Apache about Foo, I bet
>> some folks would not know what Foo is or where it lives. If I say 'Commons
>> Foo' then it's obvious (I hope). That is how I justify to myself the
>> commons in the AID.
>> 
>> FWIW: Over at Log4j, we have "log4j-" as the prefix for all module names,
>> and no one seems to mind.
> 
> I'm all for consistency. VFS does it this way, Weaver does it this way,
> Chain does it this way. And GID matching TLP ID makes sense as well.
> 
> Who can grant the necessary permissions?
> 
> 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>>> 
>>>> Jochen
>>>> 
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