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Subject: Re: Announce: Commons Inject
From: Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>,
 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
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2015-01-04 17:57 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>:

> Hi Jochen!
>
>
> The code is now indeed self-contained. I did not really look at the code
> but like to start with just a few small observations:
>
> 1.) the repo contains the whole eclipse project files. I'd rather remove
> those from the repos and add them (+ idea files) to svn:ignore.
>
> 2.) javax-inject.api. I'd probably replace this via our own impl:
>
> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/geronimo-atinject=
_1.0_spec/1.0/


why? (just out of curiosity :-)


>
>
> 3.) the atinject (JSR-330) TCK. I compiled the project and it only said i=
t
> passes 2 tests. I double checked with OpenWebBeans and over there we run
> (and pass of course) 50 tests. Maybe there is something wrong with the
> integration?
>
> 4.) the Scopes.
> You currently have a Enum for this. I guess it would be pretty easy to
> switch this to using scope annotations which are meta-annotated with @Sco=
pe
> instead? And also implement the @Singleton scope based on that approach
> instead of rolling your own?
>
>
> Just a few ideas.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wednesday, 17 December 2014, 13:56, Jochen Wiedmann <
> jochen.wiedmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well spotted. I had added Guice as a Maven dependency so as to
> > validate certain things while implementing. It's now removed. This
> > should eliminate your concerns. Also, please note that the remaining
> > dependencies are all provided, with the exception of
> > javax.inject-1.jar and javax.inject-tck-1.jar, which are required for
> > obvious reasons. (After all, this is the implemented standard.)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >>  2014-11-19 8:44 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>:
> >>>
> >>>  Jochen, I might have done something wrong so please help me.
> >>>
> >>>  I've checked out your svn link and built it.
> >>>
> >>>  Then I did a
> >>>
> >>>  $> mvn clean -DincludeScope=3Druntime dependency:copy-dependencies
> >>>  -rw-r--r--+ 1 struberg staff    4467 19. Nov 08:41 aopalliance-1.0.j=
ar
> >>>  -rw-r--r--+ 1 struberg staff 2228009 19. Nov 08:41 guava-16.0.1.jar
> >>>  -rw-r--r--+ 1 struberg staff  642741 19. Nov 08:41 guice-4.0-beta5.j=
ar
> >>>  -rw-r--r--+ 1 struberg staff    2497 19. Nov 08:41 javax.inject-1.ja=
r
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  $> du -hs target/dependencies
> >>>
> >>>  show me 2.8 MB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Plus your own jar which is 76k.
> >>>  Is there something wrong? What are you using guice and guava for?
> >>>  Also there is an own ASF package for atinject [1].
> >>>
> >>
> >>  Jochen, can you please comment?
> >>
> >>  Benedikt
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  LieGrue,
> >>>  strub
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  [1]
> >>>
> >
> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/geronimo-atinject=
_1.0_spec/1.0/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  On Wednesday, 19 November 2014, 8:34, Mark Struberg
> > <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>  >> Sorry, did not mean to step on somebody's toes.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >No worries you didn't. It's most probably our fault as our
> > (OpenWebBeans)
> >>>  documentation sucks and we did not properly document all this stuff =
;)
> >>>  >
> >>>  >If one of you guys is at ApacheCon in Budapest right now, then
> > I'd love
> >>>  to give you a quick rush through our code an see if there is somethi=
ng
> > you
> >>>  could use and also if we could improve something in OWB.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >LieGrue,
> >>>  >strub
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >----- Original Message -----
> >>>  >> From: Oliver Heger <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de>
> >>>  >> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
> >>>  >> Cc:
> >>>  >> Sent: Sunday, 9 November 2014, 11:45
> >>>  >> Subject: Re: Announce: Commons Inject
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >> On 08.11.2014 21:51, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> >>>  >>>  Le 8 nov. 2014 19:51, "Oliver Heger"
> >>>  >> <oliver.heger@oliver-heger.de> a =C3=A9crit
> >>>  >>>  :
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>  Hi Jochen,
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>  do you intend to position this framework for specific
> > use cases? In
> >>>  >>>>  which way is it different or special from other
> > implementations?
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>  Just as one example: In the company I am working for,
> > we are using
> >>>  CDI
> >>>  >>>>  in a pretty large JSE application. Due to the huge
> > class path the
> >>>  setup
> >>>  >>>>  of the CDI container takes a long time and consumes a
> > lot of memory
> >>>  >>>>  (tested with both Weld SE and OpenWebBeans). So a
> > fast and
> >>>  lightweight
> >>>  >>>>  implementation for this special purpose would be
> > interesting.
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>
> >>>  >>>  Surely a bad example since you can achieve it with owb,
> > just
> >>>  configure the
> >>>  >>>  scanner service
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >> Sorry, did not mean to step on somebody's toes.
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >> Oliver
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>>
> >>>  >>>>  Oliver
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>  Am 04.11.2014 um 15:55 schrieb Jochen Wiedmann:
> >>>  >>>>>  Hi,
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  As some of you (hopefulyl not all) may have
> > noticed, have added a
> >>>  >>>>>  project called Commons Inject to the Sandbox [1]
> > today. Commons
> >>>  >> Inject
> >>>  >>>>>  is a JSR 330 compliant dependency injection
> > framework. It is
> >>>  >> something
> >>>  >>>>>  I had in the works for quite some time, but now
> > it has reached a
> >>>  >>>>>  decent state with my preliminary milestones
> > reached:
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  - Passes the JSR 330 TCK.
> >>>  >>>>>  - Integrated lifecycle handling via
> > @PostConstruct and @PreDestroy.
> >>>  >>>>>  Works with all scopes,
> >>>  >>>>>     including lazy singletons. (I never got this
> > to work with Guice,
> >>>  >>>>>  which has been my major
> >>>  >>>>>     driver for doing this.)
> >>>  >>>>>  - Integrated logger injection framework for
> > Log4J, SLF4J, and
> >>>  >> Commons
> >>>  >>>>>  Logging. Others can
> >>>  >>>>>     easily be added.
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  I intend to use this for serious works from now
> > on and consequently
> >>>  >>>>>  hope to create a release real soon, at which
> > point I'll ask to
> >>>  >> move
> >>>  >>>>>  this to proper.
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  Any feedback welcome.
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  Jochen
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>  [1]
> >>>  >>
> > https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/commons-inject/trunk/
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>>
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>
> >>>  >>>>
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> >>  http://www.systemoutprintln.de/
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