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From Reto Gmür <>
Subject Re: [ALL] [RDF] Commons RDF approach
Date Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:15:47 GMT
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Sergio Fernández <> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> after the intense discussions last weeks, this week we're coming down to
> what could be a suitable approach for Commons RDF.
> Summarizing, we understand that the Apache Commons project wants to keep
> the communication rules as they currently are. Though we think that in this
> phase of the Commons RDF project, which focuses on the API design and
> actively involves the developers of existing toolkits, it is better to have
> a more focused community and infrastructure. Therefore we have come to the
> conclusion that incubation is probably the best path, and then gradually
> prepare the Commons RDF community for working within the larger Apache
> Commons community. So we invite everybody to join the project in case you
> are interested, particularly the current module at sandbox.
Could you give a link to the discussion of the "we" that came to this

In my understanding there is the possibility of using the commons sandbox.
And we have two proposal for rdf-commons one coming from clerezza and the
other from the community on github. I also see some interests on both sides
two align the proposals. The proposal in the sandbox svn is a first attempt
of such an alignment.

> In the following days we plan to discuss the proposal with the Incubator
> PMC (we already started to work on a draft )

I've no fundamental objection as having a new project with a narrower focus
than clerezza in the incubator rather than in the commons sandbox. The
crucial is that your incubation proposal mentions exclusively the github
code as starting point. At the clerezza project we have been following the
goal of a common RDF API since incubation as the first goal. We have
addressed issues that are not yet fully addressed in the github proposal
(see the other discussion on blank nodes) and we have been working as an
apache community for more than 5 years.

I'm happy to participate in this project but I would appreciate a more
neutral starting point.


> with the clear mid-term goal of coming back graduated as a Apache Commons
> module. Since the path is clear, although Andy or myself could do it
> because we are IPMC members, I'd like to have a Champion who is also part
> of the Commons PMC, any volunteer?
> We hope this is a satisfactory solution for everybody. I personally
> apologize for the noised caused, but all discussions with you guys were
> really good.
> Cheers,
> --
> Sergio Fernández
> Partner Technology Manager
> Redlink GmbH
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