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From Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE][JCS] release [jcs] 2.0-beta-1 (take 3)
Date Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:47:15 GMT
2015-01-26 17:41 GMT+01:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
> On 26 January 2015 at 12:20, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok so you only speak about dist src bundle?
>
> No, it also affects the binary bundle, and it affects the SVN tag
> (which is also a distribution, though not a release)
>

Not the bundle since aspectj files are not here and keeping xerox
reference is not an issue just something we should avoid if possible
nor the tag since the tag is fine (the tag uses module license and
global one - bundle - doesnt make any sense). So it only affects
sources one.

>> Not sure it does need to cancel the vote, this is not a major issue
>> IMO and can be fixed for next one
>
> Given how infrequently releases are made, I don't think that is a good idea.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau
>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>
>>
>> 2015-01-26 12:39 GMT+01:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>>> On 26 January 2015 at 11:30, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> @sebb: not sure I get it right, it references LICENSE.txt correctly for me
>>>
>>> Not sure what you mean by "it" above.
>>>
>>> As I already wrote:
>>> The NOTICE file should not reference LICENSE.txt
>>> Nor should it reference LICENSE.xerox, because the Xerox license does
>>> not require attribution.
>>>
>>> However LICENSE.txt must include - or point to as separate file(s) -
>>> any 3rd party licenses for bundled code.
>>> It does not reference xerox currently, so there is a problem which
>>> arises because of the source file.
>>>
>>> The user must be able to determine the licensing requirements from
>>> LICENSE and NOTICE without having to look around for other license
>>> files.
>>> And the NOTICE file must not contain anything that is not required.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> @rmannibucau
>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-26 12:27 GMT+01:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>>>>> On 26 January 2015 at 11:19, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> if that's the case +1 but anyway it doesnt hurt
>>>>>
>>>>> But it does have some consequences, because of the license issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Thomas: before dropping it can you confirm it a last time please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> @rmannibucau
>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-01-26 12:18 GMT+01:00 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Why not just drop it entirely?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that is the only Xerox-licensed file, it is not essential
to the
>>>>>>> operation of JCS, so why keep it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 January 2015 at 21:44, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this is not packaged AFAIK, just here as a sample I guess.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau
>>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-01-25 22:35 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>:
>>>>>>>>> is that all?
>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jcs/trunk/commons-jcs-core/src/aspect/org/apache/commons/Trace.aj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be actually quite easy to replace this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 January 2015, 19:30, Thomas Vandahl
<tv@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > On 25.01.15 17:00, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>  It does AFAIK - was not here and just propagated
existing legal text - and
>>>>>>>>>>>  that is why it is referenced in core and not
all artifacts.
>>>>>>>>>>>   Le 25 janv. 2015 16:55, "sebb" <sebbaz@gmail.com>
a ├ęcrit
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The XEROX license relates to the file
>>>>>>>>>> /commons-jcs-core/src/aspect/org/apache/commons/Trace.aj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the file continues to be part of the distribution,
the license file
>>>>>>>>>> must be present, at least that is my understanding
of the Apache
>>>>>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This was discussed at length when JCS 1.3 was released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bye, Thomas.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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