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From Gilles <>
Subject Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the "dev" ML
Date Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:17:15 GMT
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:58:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 1/16/15 5:05 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>> Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
>>> If the volume of messages discourages new contributors from joining 
>>> the
>>> project that's indeed an issue.

Two or three people said so.

>>> We had an average of 400 messages per
>>> month in 2014,

Between 2014-10-21 and now, the count of messages addressed to one of 
"commons" lists is 4387, that is an average of about 50 per day (1500 

>>> that's on par with maven-dev, half of tomcat-dev and 1/7
>>> of lucene-dev.

The problem is not primarily "dev", it is that some people simply 
spend even more time to cater for all the Commons projects; yet we 
all the notifications.
It's basic care for others' comfort to fix this at the source.
Is it so difficult to understand that I don't want to be flooded with
notifications of commits to a codebase which I don't contribute to?

> It's also significantly below where Commons used to be when we had a
> *lot* more active committers and contributors.

So it can be worse. That's very comforting indeed.


>>> I don't think splitting the list by component is a good idea 
>>> though,
>>> this will kill the community (the 'all' list is unlikely to be 
>>> popular).
>> +1
> +1 and lets maybe cut the threads like this (self-referential) one ;)
> Phil
>> - Jörg

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