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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:36:46 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VOTE][RC2] Release Commons Math 3.4
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On 22 December 2014 at 19:17, Luc Maisonobe <luc@spaceroots.org> wrote:
> Le 22/12/2014 18:28, sebb a =C3=A9crit :
>> On 22 December 2014 at 17:09, Luc Maisonobe <luc@spaceroots.org> wrote:
>>> Le 22/12/2014 17:33, sebb a =C3=A9crit :
>>>> On 22 December 2014 at 16:19, Luc Maisonobe <luc@spaceroots.org> wrote=
:
>>>>> Le 22/12/2014 16:44, sebb a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>>> -1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are still problems in the NOTICE and/or LICENSE files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of the additional attributions in the NOTICE file have
>>>>>> corresponding entries in the LICENSE file.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 3 attributions in the Notice file.
>>>>>
>>>>>  - one for the erf function. There were no license. We had to contact=
,
>>>>>    the author directly and he allowed us to reuse the code under the
>>>>>    Apache license.
>>>>
>>>> Where is that contact documented?
>>>
>>> It is explained in the MATH-948 JIRA issue. We get a Sofware grant from
>>> Mike Giles (Oxford University) that was sent to secretary on March 23th
>>> 2013.
>>
>> The JIRA does not reference the actual communication, so it's not
>> possible to trace this.
>>
>>>> It would be helpful to have it in the LICENSE file.
>>
>> Still true.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>  - the second one was for Ben McCann work. This was distributed under
>>>>>    the Apache License, which is in the license file
>>>
>>> For this one, we also received a grant on 2009-03-16. As the original
>>> files posted in MATH-246 did include an author tag. I asked Ben if I
>>> could remove it and put it in the NOTICE file. He was fine with this.
>>
>> Again, only part of the conversation is documented.
>> It is not clear if the author would have been happy with other forms
>> of attribution.
>>
>>>>>  - the thirs one is for Orekit, which is also distributed under
>>>>>    Apache 2 license and therefore is present in the License file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not think we need to copy the Apache license three times in one =
file.
>>>>
>>>> Of course not, but the LICENSE file must still state that AL 2.0 is
>>>> used for these items.
>>>
>>> So, should I put this in NOTICE or LICENSE. I am afraid I am lost there=
.
>>
>> The LICENSE file needs to mention all 3rd party licenses.
>> For AL 2.0, it just needs to mention which 3rd party items are
>> included under it.
>> For other licenses, the licenses themselves need to be included,
>> either in-line or via a link to a separate file that is included in
>> the distribution.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That cannot be correct, regardless of whether the attributions are r=
equired.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAICT the attributions are not required *unless* they were removed
>>>>>> from source code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly disagree here. It is completely forbidden to remove copyri=
ght
>>>>> from files unless allowed by the user.
>>>>
>>>> I agree (I wrote *unless* ... above), but is that the case here?
>>>
>>> At least for the Orekit case, the library does have a NOTICE file, so
>>> according to the Apache license we must include the relevant parts,
>>> and the parts that have been included are the ones for which the
>>> attribution is required (i.e. the other parts in Orekit NOTICE that wer=
e
>>> not included in Apache because we imported only a small part have been
>>> removed so Apache Commons Math NOTICE contains only the minimum require=
d
>>> by the license, has stated in the commit message for 4edc00b).
>>
>> OK, but this does not explain why the Orekit references in N & L are
>> completely different.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> When a license states that
>>>>> attribution must be put "in the documentation and/or other materials
>>>>> provided with the  distribution", it doesn't mean you are allowed to
>>>>> removed them for elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Attribution can also be satisified by the LICENSE file.
>>>> For example, this is true of BSD and MIT
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RC e-mail needs a link to the KEYS file (not a release blocker)
>>>
>>> Do you consider the above NOTICE problems to be release blockers?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> And there are LICENSE issues as well.
>
> So here is what I propose to do.
>
> Add this after the Apache license text in the license file:
>
> ----------------
> The previous Apache license applies to the code specifically
> developed for Apache Commons Math by the committers, and to some
> code developed by third parties that was licensed to the Apache
> Software Foundation through Software Grants, or was already distributed
> under the terms of the Apache V2 license. This includes:

I would put something like:

Apache Commons Math includes the following code provided to the ASF under t=
he
Apache License 2.0:

>  - The inverse error function implementation in the Erf class is based
> on CUDA
>    code developed by Mike Giles, Oxford-Man Institute of Quantitative
> Finance,
>    and published in GPU Computing Gems, volume 2, 2010 (grant received on
>    March 23th 2013)
>  - The LinearConstraint, LinearObjectiveFunction, LinearOptimizer,
>    RelationShip, SimplexSolver and SimplexTableau classes in package
>    org.apache.commons.math3.optimization.linear include software
> developed by
>    Benjamin McCann (http://www.benmccann.com) and distributed with
>    the following copyright: Copyright 2009 Google Inc. (grant received on
>    March 16th 2009)
>  - The class
> "org.apache.commons.math3.exception.util.LocalizedFormatsTest" which
>    is an adapted version of "OrekitMessagesTest" test class for the
> Orekit library
>  - The "org.apache.commons.math3.analysis.interpolation.HermiteInterpolat=
or"
>    has been imported from the Orekit space flight dynamics library.
> ---------------
>
> Remove the attributions for Mike Giles and Ben McCann from NOTICE, as
> they would now be in the above text in LICENSE.
>
> Let only the Orekit very simple lines in NOTICE:
>
> ------------
> This product includes software developed for Orekit by
> CS Syst=C3=A8mes d'Information (http://www.c-s.fr/)
> Copyright 2010-2012 CS Syst=C3=A8mes d'Information
> ------------

Why is the Orekit attribution needed?

> Would this solve the issues for you?
>
> best regards,
> Luc
>
>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Luc
>>>
>>>>>> It might help if the Git link pointed to the commit rather than the
>>>>>> tarball, for example
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dcommons-math.git;a=3Dcom=
mit;h=3Dfe08f0d3bd0309db15d27335757336a8ac6f32d0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This gives access to the tarball and the tree directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think access to the tree would help here since the KEYS file
>>>>> is shared with other components and is in the subversion part,
>>>>> not the git part. So the link must be something specific. I'll
>>>>> add it in the template.
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards,
>>>>> Luc
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 December 2014 at 15:54, Luc Maisonobe <luc@spaceroots.org> wro=
te:
>>>>>>> This is a [VOTE] for releasing Apache Commons Math 3.4 from release
>>>>>>> candidate 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag name:
>>>>>>>   MATH_3_4_RC2 (signature can be checked from git using 'git tag -v=
')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tag URL:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dcommons-math.git;a=3Ds=
napshot;h=3Dfe08f0d3bd0309db15d27335757336a8ac6f32d0;sf=3Dtgz>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
>>>>>>>   fe08f0d3bd0309db15d27335757336a8ac6f32d0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Site:
>>>>>>>   <http://people.apache.org/~luc/commons-math-3.4-RC2-site>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files:
>>>>>>>   <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/math/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Distribution files hashes (SHA1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  a0ef31377fa4a38be71ce6ddc28044e9c8d34ee8 commons-math3-3.4-bin.tar=
.gz
>>>>>>>  a4ad5264c2016e893acb4e004438c370a927802c commons-math3-3.4-bin.zip
>>>>>>>  2c300e94f69761b34f1b4247133776440a37c801 commons-math3-3.4-src.tar=
.gz
>>>>>>>  c49b4f25e227ab66dfe90627d794c1e1accccdb4 commons-math3-3.4-src.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maven artifacts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommon=
s-1067/org/apache/commons/commons-math3/3.4/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release it.
>>>>>>> [ ] +0 Go ahead; I don't care.
>>>>>>> [ ] -0 There are a few minor glitches: ...
>>>>>>> [ ] -1 No, do not release it because ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This vote will close in 72 hours, at 2014-12-22T16:00:00Z (this is =
UTC
>>>>>>> time).
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