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From Bernd Eckenfels <>
Subject Re: [ALL] Do we need help?
Date Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:21:00 GMT

I dont think we have a release manager for VFS, but I am still working
on Bugs. If you have a patch for a Bug which affects you, please upload
it to Jira. We can need all helps to prune them down. Right now we have
3 blockers open. 2 in the area of FTP which I do not have much
experience with and one memory leaks where I am working on.

Once those are closed or downgraded we can try a release. However last
time I tried to start a discussion not much help was received. I
suspect this might chnage when the first RC is put out and all the
negative votes come in (there is a large Clirr report and while I think
most of it is acceptable, I really think we need to talk about it).

This is where Garys question comes in. Yes we might be a volunteering
organisation, but certain things bottleneck on experienced people in
the PMC. And I dont really know a way around this.


 Am Sat, 29 Nov
2014 15:27:02 +0000 (UTC) schrieb

> My 2 cents as an outsider, for what it's worth. I have contributed
> code to VFS and we use VFS in Accumulo. I and several others have
> asked for a 2.1 release, or at least a plan/roadmap so that we know
> what has to happen before a release can occur. I even offered to help
> in any way possible[1]. The answer I received was that a release
> manager was assigned, but no other information. Since then I have
> seen a bunch of other commons projects being released. I figure that
> maybe they are dependencies and need to be released first before a
> VFS release. 
> Personally, I would like to remove the VFS objects from Accumulo when
> VFS 2.1 is released. I know that we are also running into VFS-487,
> which I spent some time updating the patch and verifying the tests
> work. I would like to update the HDFS dependency to the latest before
> the 2.1 release (VFS-530), but I don't know when that is going to
> happen. I would also like to take advantage of some of the fixes in
> 2.1, like VFS-500. 
> I understand this is a volunteer organization and everyone is busy.
> However, from my perspective, you have turned down an offer to help.
> FWIW, I have thought about taking VFS 2.1-SNAPSHOT, applying the
> patches I want, and creating a release for use on my project (not
> Accumulo). 
> [1]

> - Dave 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Gregory" <> 
> To: "Commons Developers List" <> 
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:42:35 AM 
> Subject: RE: [ALL] Do we need help? 
> It feels overwhelming sometimes sure, but for me I just realize that
> this is just a self inflicted feeling. We are all volunteers here
> with no contractual or "hard" expectations. We could do better at
> managing expectations for certain and recruiting new blood, yes. But
> that takes time away from fun development tasks... I usually ask for
> patches as soon as someone asks for a fix or feature. At least that
> should make it more obvious to users and the community that you get
> out of Commons what you put in to some extent. 
> Gary 
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Benedikt
> Ritter <> </div><div>Date:11/29/2014 05:53
> (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Commons Developers List
> <> </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject:
[ALL] Do
> we need help? </div><div> </div>Hi all, 
> currently I feel really overwhelmed by the stuff I'd like to do at
> commons and the little time I can spend for it. Here is an
> (incomplete) list of the things I'd like to work on: 
> - get a new release of the build plugin out of the door for auto
> creating and 
> - Work on [VALIDATOR] and get a new release out of the door 
> - Work on [DBUTILS] and get a new release out of the door 
> - Push [lang] 3.4 out of the door 
> - Have a look at [compress] 2.0 
> - Backport important fixes from [collections] 4.0 to 3.x and create a
> last service update 
> - work on [text] 
> - help releasing [imaging] 1.0 
> - Improve docs on how to get involved at commons 
> - Organize a logo contest for commons 
> - ... many more 
> I wonder how you feel about this. I have the feeling that a lot of
> people ask us to fix stuff and release components but we don't really
> catch up with this. This will give people the feeling that we are
> slow or we simply don't care. 
> Whenever I see someone posting on JIRA "can you please fix this, we
> need this in out application" and nobody is reacting, I feel tempted
> to jump right in, even if I don't know the component (which adds
> another entry to the list above). 
> I don't see a way how we can improve this. My feeling is, that we
> need more committers. But then I have the comments of people I've
> talked to in my ear: "to old school", "to difficult to get involved",
> "to slow development process", "to unwelcoming community". So what do
> we do? Do we need help? 
> I'm excited to hear your thoughts :-) 
> Best regards, 
> Benedikt 

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