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Subject RE: [ALL] Do we need help?
Date Sun, 30 Nov 2014 02:36:35 GMT

 Sorry, I thought a RM had been assigned[1]. I don't think I have any
patches for open tickets, the tickets that I am interested in (487,500,530)
already have patches waiting to be applied. Additionally, if there are open
issues w/r/t HDFS integration, then I can address them as well. The only
HDFS related issues I see at this time are 523 and 530, both of which have
patches. I can update 530 with a more recent version of HDFS before a
release of VFS.

I don't remember seeing a previous discussion regarding a 2.1 release. It's
very possible I missed it or it was filtered. Please let me know how I can


-----Original Message-----
From: Bernd Eckenfels [] 
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:21 PM
Cc: Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [ALL] Do we need help?


I dont think we have a release manager for VFS, but I am still working on
Bugs. If you have a patch for a Bug which affects you, please upload it to
Jira. We can need all helps to prune them down. Right now we have
3 blockers open. 2 in the area of FTP which I do not have much experience
with and one memory leaks where I am working on.

Once those are closed or downgraded we can try a release. However last time
I tried to start a discussion not much help was received. I suspect this
might chnage when the first RC is put out and all the negative votes come in
(there is a large Clirr report and while I think most of it is acceptable, I
really think we need to talk about it).

This is where Garys question comes in. Yes we might be a volunteering
organisation, but certain things bottleneck on experienced people in the
PMC. And I dont really know a way around this.


 Am Sat, 29 Nov
2014 15:27:02 +0000 (UTC) schrieb

> My 2 cents as an outsider, for what it's worth. I have contributed 
> code to VFS and we use VFS in Accumulo. I and several others have 
> asked for a 2.1 release, or at least a plan/roadmap so that we know 
> what has to happen before a release can occur. I even offered to help 
> in any way possible[1]. The answer I received was that a release 
> manager was assigned, but no other information. Since then I have seen 
> a bunch of other commons projects being released. I figure that maybe 
> they are dependencies and need to be released first before a VFS 
> release.
> Personally, I would like to remove the VFS objects from Accumulo when 
> VFS 2.1 is released. I know that we are also running into VFS-487, 
> which I spent some time updating the patch and verifying the tests 
> work. I would like to update the HDFS dependency to the latest before 
> the 2.1 release (VFS-530), but I don't know when that is going to 
> happen. I would also like to take advantage of some of the fixes in 
> 2.1, like VFS-500.
> I understand this is a volunteer organization and everyone is busy.
> However, from my perspective, you have turned down an offer to help.
> FWIW, I have thought about taking VFS 2.1-SNAPSHOT, applying the 
> patches I want, and creating a release for use on my project (not 
> Accumulo).
> [1]
> - Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Gregory" <>
> To: "Commons Developers List" <>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:42:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [ALL] Do we need help? 
> It feels overwhelming sometimes sure, but for me I just realize that 
> this is just a self inflicted feeling. We are all volunteers here with 
> no contractual or "hard" expectations. We could do better at managing 
> expectations for certain and recruiting new blood, yes. But that takes 
> time away from fun development tasks... I usually ask for patches as 
> soon as someone asks for a fix or feature. At least that should make 
> it more obvious to users and the community that you get out of Commons 
> what you put in to some extent.
> Gary
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Benedikt 
> Ritter <> </div><div>Date:11/29/2014 05:53
> (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Commons Developers List 
> <> </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject:
[ALL] Do 
> we need help? </div><div> </div>Hi all,
> currently I feel really overwhelmed by the stuff I'd like to do at 
> commons and the little time I can spend for it. Here is an
> (incomplete) list of the things I'd like to work on: 
> - get a new release of the build plugin out of the door for auto 
> creating and
> - Work on [VALIDATOR] and get a new release out of the door
> - Work on [DBUTILS] and get a new release out of the door
> - Push [lang] 3.4 out of the door
> - Have a look at [compress] 2.0
> - Backport important fixes from [collections] 4.0 to 3.x and create a 
> last service update
> - work on [text]
> - help releasing [imaging] 1.0
> - Improve docs on how to get involved at commons
> - Organize a logo contest for commons
> - ... many more
> I wonder how you feel about this. I have the feeling that a lot of 
> people ask us to fix stuff and release components but we don't really 
> catch up with this. This will give people the feeling that we are slow 
> or we simply don't care.
> Whenever I see someone posting on JIRA "can you please fix this, we 
> need this in out application" and nobody is reacting, I feel tempted 
> to jump right in, even if I don't know the component (which adds 
> another entry to the list above).
> I don't see a way how we can improve this. My feeling is, that we need 
> more committers. But then I have the comments of people I've talked to 
> in my ear: "to old school", "to difficult to get involved", "to slow 
> development process", "to unwelcoming community". So what do we do? Do 
> we need help?
> I'm excited to hear your thoughts :-)
> Best regards,
> Benedikt

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