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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:17:01 +0100
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Subject: Re: [LANG] Towards 3.3
From: Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
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2014-02-07 Duncan Jones <duncan@wortharead.com>:

> On 31 January 2014 07:54, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org> wrote:
> > Nice discussion. Thanks for clearing this up. So Duncan: go ahead if you
> > got the time.
>
> Hi Benedikt,
>
> Based on other discussions on the ML, the fix for LANG-341 belongs in
> the Conversion class. I think this warrants a larger piece of work to
> implement some of the "missing" methods in that class. I therefore
> suggest that LANG-341 should be ignored for 3.3 and shouldn't hold up
> your plans to release.
>

Okay, I've set the fix version of LANG-341 to 3.x.

Benedikt


>
> Duncan
>
>
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/31 Duncan Jones <duncan@wortharead.com>
> >
> >> On 31 January 2014 04:37, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Read section 5 of the license.
> >>
> >> Ok, that's pretty clear-cut then. To save others from dragging up the
> >> wording:
> >>
> >> "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state
> >> otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in
> >> the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and
> >> conditions of this License, without any additional terms or
> >> conditions."
> >>
> >> So I'd say any patch to existing source would be covered by that. The
> >> term Contribution is defined higher in the license and includes
> >> submission to the issue tracking system.
> >>
> >> Obtaining an ICLA should still be a goal, I think, but it shouldn't
> >> prevent us from adding useful patches to the project.
> >>
> >> Duncan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >  On Jan 30, 2014 10:16 AM, "Benedikt Ritter" <britter@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm not sure whether providing a patch for an AL licensed file is
> >> >> automatically licensed under AL as well. In the end the raw diff file
> >> does
> >> >> not contain the AL header, so you're better of with an ICLA.
> >> >>
> >> >> Benedikt
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014/1/27 Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Depends whose arguing probably :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Our license gives us a right to contributions under Apache 2.0
> unless
> >> >> > stated otherwise; the ICLA is playing safer. We can also simply
> take
> >> >> > anything under a compatible license and include (with suitable
> >> >> licensing).
> >> >> > I did that for a method from Spring.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hen
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Duncan Jones <
> duncan@wortharead.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > On 26 January 2014 19:47, Duncan Jones <duncan@wortharead.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > On 26 January 2014 18:49, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > >> Hi Duncan,
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> 2014/1/26 Duncan Jones <duncan@wortharead.com>
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >>> On 26 January 2014 13:33, Benedikt Ritter <
> britter@apache.org>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > > >>> > Hi all,
> >> >> > > >>> >
> >> >> > > >>> > we've fixed some bugs and we have some nice new features
> >> >> > implemented
> >> >> > > >>> > (DiffBuilder, Jaro-Winkler Distance, RandomUtils,
> >> >> ClassPathUtils),
> >> >> > > so I'm
> >> >> > > >>> > planning to cut a RC in the first week of February.
> >> >> > > >>> >
> >> >> > > >>> > I just wanted to know if there is anything you'd like to
> have
> >> >> > > included in
> >> >> > > >>> > the next release. Then please tag it with fix version 3.3.
> >> >> > > >>> >
> >> >> > > >>> > Regards,
> >> >> > > >>> > Benedikt
> >> >> > > >>> >
> >> >> > > >>>
> >> >> > > >>> I'm debating whether LANG-341 might be a candidate for
> >> inclusion.
> >> >> The
> >> >> > > >>> patch is fairly complete, just needs Javadocs and a couple of
> >> >> > > >>> additional unit tests, which I can sort over the coming week.
> >> What
> >> >> do
> >> >> > > >>> you guys think? It seems like a useful addition to me.
> >> >> > > >>>
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Yes looks neat. The problem I'm seeing is, that the last
> >> activity is
> >> >> > > from
> >> >> > > >> Nov 2011, and the contributor has no ICLA listed (see [1]), so
> >> IP is
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > > >> absolutely clear. I'm unsure if we can use this contribution
> >> without
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > >> ICLA. Anyway, Hen has contributed the patch Vincent Ricard
> used,
> >> so
> >> >> we
> >> >> > > can
> >> >> > > >> use Hen's patch and improve it.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Benedikt
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> [1]
> http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Good point. I think in this case I'll ping the contributor to
> get
> >> >> > > > their thoughts on an ICLA and assume this will miss v3.3. He's
> >> done a
> >> >> > > > lot of work to extend Hen's patch and it would be a shame for
> that
> >> >> not
> >> >> > > > to get committed if he's interested. If there's no reply (or no
> >> >> > > > interest), I'll sort something for v3.4.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Having said that... does this still represent a problem if the
> >> >> > > contributor has patched existing code (containing the Apache
> >> license)?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Are there any situations where we can take a patch and apply it
> to
> >> >> > > trunk without the contributor having an ICLA? I certainly had
> >> patches
> >> >> > > applied in the past without an ICLA, but perhaps things were more
> >> lax
> >> >> > > then?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >>>
> >> >> > > >>> Duncan
> >> >> > > >>>
> >> >> > > >>>
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> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> --
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> >> >> > > >> http://www.systemoutprintln.de/
> >> >> > > >> http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter
> >> >> > > >> http://github.com/britter
> >> >> > >
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