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[63.237.194.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq3sm4298819pbc.35.2014.01.08.11.22.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:22:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52CDA588.2040707@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:22:48 -0800 From: Phil Steitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [ALL] Team list References: <52CD9B07.3020505@gmail.com> <52CDA24C.1010100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 1/8/14, 11:13 AM, sebb wrote: > On 8 January 2014 19:09, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 1/8/14, 11:05 AM, sebb wrote: >>> On 8 January 2014 18:37, Phil Steitz wrote: >>>> Why not just drop it? >>> Because it does has some use in listing PMC members/committers - which >>> then don't need to be repeated per component. >> What exactly is the benefit of that? > So users can easily find out who the Commons committers/PMC are? Committers (== component-level team list) I get the value of, PMC list not so much. Phil > >> Phil >>>> I would rather see collective energy go >>>> toward maintaining the individual component team lists. >>> Indeed; the above would be a once-off change. >>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> On 1/8/14, 6:50 AM, sebb wrote: >>>>> The team list [1] has several problems. >>>>> >>>>> - it is linked from the lhs menu as PMC yet the heading is "The >>>>> following is a list of developers with commit privileges that have >>>>> directly contributed to the project in one way or another." >>>>> - it only contains (ex) PMC members currently >>>>> - it gets out of date quickly, and partly duplicates the information in LDAP >>>>> >>>>> I think it needs a rethink. >>>>> >>>>> The only info that is not available from LDAP is the list of >>>>> non-committer contributors, however that mainly makes sense at the >>>>> component level. >>>>> >>>>> I see no point in trying to maintain committer and PMC lists manually. >>>>> Maybe there is a way to merge LDAP entries into the pom. >>>>> This would have to be redone every time there is a committer or PMC change. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively maybe there is a way to link to the LDAP lists on >>>>> people.a.o, and just use the pom for contributors. >>>>> >>>>> One solution for the main site would be to have 3 links: >>>>> Contributors => [1] (in which case the pom would need to be adjusted >>>>> for every contributor) >>>>> Committers => [2] >>>>> PMC => [3] >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://commons.staging.apache.org/team-list.html >>>>> [2] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#commons >>>>> [3] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#commons-pmc >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org