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From Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akol...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [SCXML] knock knock?
Date Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:18:27 GMT
Who's there :-)

Agree with all your Commons SCXML related comments below. I've been
out of time for this for a while; you're welcome to have at it. Being
ASF committers helps as discussed down-thread. I'll continue to lurk,
but likely won't be active in the immediate future.

Welcome to Commons,
-Rahul


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ate Douma <ate@douma.nu> wrote:
> Hi SCXML developers/community,
>
> We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
> development is, and and/or who in the community might be interested in
> re-activating it.
>
> From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has been
> happening here for a very long time: the last release 0.9 dates back to
> December 2008 and the last serious code commits to June 2011...
>
> Looking back through the history of SCXML, Rahul Akolkar was and pretty much
> still is the only maintainer of the code but seemingly no longer able or
> willing to contribute much anymore.
>
> So, what to do with Commons SCXML?
>
> To put it bluntly, we would very much like to revive the development of
> SCXML again.
>
> We are working for Hippo (Open Source CMS vendor) and intend to start using
> SCXML as state machine engine in our product shortly.
>
> As the latest release is so old, and based on only Java 1.4, we're looking
> into using the Java 6 (J6) branch instead. But this branch is still 'work in
> progress' without any release (but targeted at next major version 1.0).
>
> This J6/1.0 branch AFAIK is intended to cover the final SCXML specification
> [1], but already running quite a bit behind the latest draft of that
> specification. However, this being a W3C specification, having to wait for
> it to become final before releasing a next major version of Commons SCXML
> seems very counter-productive to me...
>
> Both myself and Woonsan are Apache committers on several other ASF projects
> for quite some time, so we know 'how it works'. We would like to get out
> hands dirty, start contributing on Commons SCXML, and help move it forward
> towards a more current release.
>
> But the question is: is there still anyone out here willing to pick up and
> review contributions, discuss stuff, etc.
>
> Hopefully Rahul can chime in (if still listening) and let us know what his
> ideas and plans are, or else maybe other active members of the Commons
> community?
>
> As a minimum we would like to get a Java 6+ compatible version released
> soon, maybe as a first milestone release towards 1.0, and incrementally add
> (more) compliance to the current SCXML specification.
>
> For this we propose to 'archive' the current stalled trunk (move it to a
> 0.xx branch or something), promote the current J6 branch to trunk, and then
> take it from there. Website and documentation fixes would be next to pick up
> and straighten out and updating the current Maven build. Possibly drop the
> outdated Ant build as well if nobody really is using or dependening on it
> anyway.
>
> As said, we're willing to step up here, but as non committers for Apache
> Commons we do need a 'handle' to get stuff moving again.
>
> Thanks, Ate & Woonsan
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/
>
>

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