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From James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Mission Statement for Commons...
Date Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:28:46 GMT
Let's take a look:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COLLECTIONS#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversions-panel

3.2.1 - 4/15/2008
3.2 - 5/14/2006
3.1 - 6/28/2004

We haven't had a release in over 5 years.  The last one (which was a
point release) took two years roughly.  Again, a minor release prior
to that took almost two years as well.  We don't have a good track
record of releasing early and often.




On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM, James Carman <james@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> The fact that it has taken so long before we got something out for
> Collections 4.x is just an embarrassment.  How long has Java had
> generics?  What could be causing us to be so slow to get releases out?
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/6/13 11:45 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>> Collections 4.x, nuff said
>>
>> Huh?  Didn't we release a beta?  We could say the same thing about
>> math 4.0, pool/dbcp 2.0, etc.  These things are in progress.  They
>> will get released.  There is activity.  I don't get the big problem
>> here.
>>
>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Adrian Crum
>>> <adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com> wrote:
>>>> I would like to know the metrics for that conclusion. I see plenty of
>>>> discussions and commits, but I'm not seeing any languishing.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/2013 11:30 AM, James Carman wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Apache Commons project seems to be languishing as of late and we
>>>>> need some rejuvenation.  Perhaps we should try to define our mission
>>>>> as a project.  What are our goals?  What do we want to accomplish?
>>>>> Who are our users/customers?  What non-functional qualities do we want
>>>>> our software to exhibit?  How do we want to conduct ourselves?  How
>>>>> often do we want to do releases?  What else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
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