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From Phil Steitz <>
Subject Re: [CHALLENGE] Move All of Commons to the Dormant
Date Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:03:32 GMT
On 10/17/13 5:52 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On 17 Oct 2013, at 2:39, Henri Yandell wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, sebb <> wrote:
>>> On 16 October 2013 12:25, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> If nobody is willing to put a component to "dormant" state,
>>>> then the
>>>> label doesn't make any sense. I would vote to remove the
>>>> dormant state in
>>>> general.
>>>> If we don't have any need of a specific component we can put it to
>>>> too.
>>>> No need to duplicate things.
>>> AFAIK, the Attic is for entire TLPs only, not individual
>>> components.
>> There are XML subcomponents there.
>> Jakarta ones went dormant iirc, but then moved over as
>> subcomponents and
>> not the overall umbrella. So I don't think there's a reason why a
>> Commons
>> component wouldn't fit.
> +1
> The attic is not only for TLPs.
> I don't find the mail reference right now. But I was asked to put
> log4cxx to the attic (sub component of Apache Logging).

I think the "dormant" classification in Commons, should we decide to
keep it (and I agree we should either agree to keep it and get it
defined and updated or dump it) does not have to be the same as
"retirement to the Attic."  I proposed above that we this just be a
designation based on lack of current "committed committers" and
things could go in and out of dormancy without any svn (or Git or
whatever) moves, trips through the incubator or other heavyweight
process.  Gary and others have pointed out that you might be able to
accomplish the same thing by just keeping team lists up to date,
prominently displaying last release date, etc. on the web site. 
Could be that is the best solution and we just dump the "dormant"
concept altogether.  Whatever we decide to do, I agree with Hen that
getting a clear picture of what people are now or working on /
intent RSN to work on is good info to have in deciding among the

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