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From Phil Steitz <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Proactive Feature Development...
Date Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:04:28 GMT
On 10/8/13 9:48 AM, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
> 2013/10/8 Stefan Bodewig <>
>> On 2013-10-08, James Carman wrote:
>>> How about this for an idea?  What if instead of waiting until *after*
>>> a new JDK comes out (and in some cases MANY years later), we start
>>> with pre-release versions in a branch or something to start using the
>>> new language features?
>> Maybe I'm just naive, but what exactly is stopping anybody from doing
>> that right now?  Or stopped anybody four years ago?
>> I think we lack people coding up said features not rules that would
>> allow such work.
> Right to the point, Stefan... But how can we attract more people? I've
> expressed what I think can be done [1]. Any other ideas?

I would say go for it if you have the time and energy to push these
things along.  Here is one more idea:

Commons started as a place for ASF committers to work on shared /
reusable stuff.  Most of the original components were actually
extracted from other projects.  Many of our most "committed
committers" over the years have been ASF ppl using "the commons"
this way.  In recent years, for various reasons - some having to do
with our painful release process, some "reuse" sort of going out of
fashion - this has trailed off quite a bit.  We should ask ourselves
what we can do to attract more ASF committers to Commons.  I am sure
some of the things you mention above might help, but I bet there are
other things we could do for that population specifically.  Maybe
simply asking on community@ or members@ and directing people here to
continue discussion might help.  Another thing we could do is to
come clean about which components have insufficient "community" to
support them.  There may be projects that use some of these things
with committers interested in helping keep them alive.

> Benedikt
> [1]
>> Stefan
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