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From Juan Antonio Breña Moral <>
Subject Re: [SCXML] knock knock?
Date Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:40:12 GMT

I am working with SCXML for HFSM with EV3 Robots.

I would like to collaborate.

Now, Apache Commons SCXML is running in a ARM9 with good performance.


On 10/07/2013 10:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
> On 10/07/2013 09:52 PM, Juan Antonio Breña Moral wrote:
>> Hi Great Idea.
>> In my case I could test software and contribute a bit.
> Great to hear!
> Are you currently active user of SCXML?
> I'd love to hear in what context, what version, etc.
> I surely welcome your offer to test and contribute!
> Thanks, Ate
>> Juan Antonio
>> On 10/07/2013 08:30 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>> On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
>>>> Hi SCXML developers/community,
>>>> We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
>>>> development is, and and/or who in the community might be
>>>> interested in re-activating it.
>>>>  From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has
>>>> been happening here for a very long time: the last release 0.9
>>>> dates back to December 2008 and the last serious code commits to
>>>> June 2011...
>>>> Looking back through the history of SCXML, Rahul Akolkar was and
>>>> pretty much still is the only maintainer of the code but seemingly
>>>> no longer able or willing to contribute much anymore.
>>>> So, what to do with Commons SCXML?
>>>> To put it bluntly, we would very much like to revive the
>>>> development of SCXML again.
>>> Great.
>>>> We are working for Hippo (Open Source CMS vendor) and intend to
>>>> start using SCXML as state machine engine in our product shortly.
>>>> As the latest release is so old, and based on only Java 1.4, we're
>>>> looking into using the Java 6 (J6) branch instead. But this branch
>>>> is still 'work in progress' without any release (but targeted at
>>>> next major version 1.0).
>>>> This J6/1.0 branch AFAIK is intended to cover the final SCXML
>>>> specification [1], but already running quite a bit behind the
>>>> latest draft of that specification. However, this being a W3C
>>>> specification, having to wait for it to become final before
>>>> releasing a next major version of Commons SCXML seems very
>>>> counter-productive to me...
>>>> Both myself and Woonsan are Apache committers on several other ASF
>>>> projects for quite some time, so we know 'how it works'. We would
>>>> like to get out hands dirty, start contributing on Commons SCXML,
>>>> and help move it forward towards a more current release.
>>> Great.  We give sandbox commit to any ASF committer.  Reply with
>>> your availIds and we can get that done immediately.  Commit to
>>> commons proper requires a little more process, but we can get that
>>> done easily assuming you want to join us as committers.
>>>> But the question is: is there still anyone out here willing to
>>>> pick up and review contributions, discuss stuff, etc.
>>>> Hopefully Rahul can chime in (if still listening) and let us know
>>>> what his ideas and plans are, or else maybe other active members
>>>> of the Commons community?
>>> Would be ideal if Rahul is still available / listening; otherwise
>>> what you can count on is some random help / comments and help with
>>> the release and build process.
>>>> As a minimum we would like to get a Java 6+ compatible version
>>>> released soon, maybe as a first milestone release towards 1.0, and
>>>> incrementally add (more) compliance to the current SCXML
>>>> specification.
>>>> For this we propose to 'archive' the current stalled trunk (move
>>>> it to a 0.xx branch or something), promote the current J6 branch
>>>> to trunk, and then take it from there. Website and documentation
>>>> fixes would be next to pick up and straighten out and updating the
>>>> current Maven build. Possibly drop the outdated Ant build as well
>>>> if nobody really is using or dependening on it anyway.
>>> Sounds reasonable.
>>>> As said, we're willing to step up here, but as non committers for
>>>> Apache Commons we do need a 'handle' to get stuff moving again.
>>> Welcome to commons!
>>> Phil
>>>> Thanks, Ate & Woonsan
>>>> [1]
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