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Subject: Re: svn commit: r1491175 - /commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml
From: Benedikt Ritter <beneritter@gmail.com>
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Hey Sebb,

Am 10.06.2013 um 21:31 schrieb sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:

> On 9 June 2013 16:12, Benedikt Ritter <beneritter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello sebb,
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>> Am 09.06.2013 um 16:38 schrieb sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
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>>> On 9 June 2013 11:18,  <britter@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Author: britter
>>>> Date: Sun Jun  9 10:18:42 2013
>>>> New Revision: 1491175
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>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1491175
>>>> Log:
>>>> Use viewvc instead of raw svn url
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>>> How is the url used by plugins?
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>>> Will using the viewvc URL mislead users into thinking they can
>>> download the source from there using SVN?
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>>> There are regular emails on the infra mailing lists where people
>>> complain they cannot use the viewwc URL with svn.
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>>> I suspect changing it may cause more issues than it resolves.
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>> This is the config that is used for example in [LANG]. It will cause =
the Source Repository page to contain the viewvc link under the web =
access section.
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> Yes, I understand that.
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>> The other sections on that page use the information from <connection> =
and <developerConnection>
>> There should not be any problems if users read the web site =
carefully=85
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> Sadly, that is often not the case... (otherwise the RTFM acronym would
> not exist!)
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> And even if they do, it's not made particularly obvious that the URL
> is not suitable for SVN client access.
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> The section says:
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> "The following is a link to the online source repository." - that
> could equally apply to SVN clients.
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> The section header says "Web access" but "Web" does not always mean
> HTTP(S); it's often used loosely to mean Internet.
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> The fixed page text really ought to be clarified.

I've done some research and I learned that the content of the Source =
Repositories page is generated by the maven project info reports plugin =
[1].
There is a HowTo on how to customize the static texts of the pages =
generated by the plugin [2].=20
I don't feel that it's necessary to do the customizing, because a lot of =
the other proper components use the same default config of the plugin. =
For the time I'm registered on the ML (which is quiet short, tbh) there =
has never been a request from users about broken SVN links as far as I =
can remember.

But if you have the feeling that the information on our web sites is =
insufficient, feel free to change this for CSV and all the other =
components ;-)
An alternative would be to raise an issue to change the default settings =
of the project info reports plugin.

Benedikt

[1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-project-info-reports-plugin/
[2] =
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-project-info-reports-plugin/examples=
/custom-report.html

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>> Benedikt
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>>>> Modified:
>>>>   commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml
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>>>> Modified: commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml
>>>> URL: =
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml?rev=3D149117=
5&r1=3D1491174&r2=3D1491175&view=3Ddiff
>>>> =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D
>>>> --- commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml (original)
>>>> +++ commons/proper/csv/trunk/pom.xml Sun Jun  9 10:18:42 2013
>>>> @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ CSV files of various types.
>>>>  <scm>
>>>>    =
<connection>scm:svn:http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/csv/tru=
nk</connection>
>>>>    =
<developerConnection>scm:svn:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/prop=
er/csv/trunk</developerConnection>
>>>> -    =
<url>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/csv/trunk</url>
>>>> +    =
<url>http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/csv/trunk</url>
>>>>  </scm>
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>>>>  <issueManagement>
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