Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3C41105C1 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 22:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99191 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2013 22:12:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 99091 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2013 22:12:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 99083 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2013 22:12:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 22:12:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of sebbaz@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.180] (HELO mail-ea0-f180.google.com) (209.85.215.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 22:12:01 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k10so1713851eaj.39 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:11:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tRWW2hEulBwbCOc/TexO7rQLD+LZfBP3CvDaKUzE2Qo=; b=EPC7yzYGrmE1BD0zqIpM18xDsZeG34+kwXsHHjNsA9E3S41QMKuH8uiv0UXigVTjTS FXWqcg62OE43g/dmPBl5T5i5okH0IgE+h+8hLOjOQ/5/R3u8R355CLiyNO+eLurVZfYD /jQMhF9yXKbA21eRUlaJWCn0Wdj014EBOroUh7RSK9Kn4+LlgkQOzRVAiX9l47Gsn4hA L2aU9C4ohrBXNAHS4TUicRBElIhmrdK9s629DTbehuotvqzaj1OSXoSkEhClQyeqy6nX nd1ADvAGn5rV9sCJFM8iZCQ/gcGr33hX5dNJG3ZMY0QHazqXtsTVt4bs10lQk672cU+y PFSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.134.73 with SMTP id pi9mr30990832wjb.38.1370470301422; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.43.164 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:11:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 23:11:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Launcher] From: sebb To: Commons Developers List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 5 June 2013 22:53, Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo = wrote: > Ok a bit more educated about the [exec] project now and yes I do believe > [exec] is sort of too small to be left on its own. > > I liked the idea of merging it into [launcher] or the other way around bu= t > then I liked your next idea even better merging them both into [lang] ... > > However, on a second thought, [lang] was never intended to be doing all > this sort of ninja third party code execution stuff that both [launcher] > and [exec] aim to. > > The closest [lang] comes to external code execution seems to be on > the org.apache.commons.lang3.SystemUtils and even that is only meant to > extend the functionality of java.lang.System which doesn't contain any of > the code execution stuff (apart from load() and loadLibrary()) > > I believe it would then be better to merge them [launcher] and [exec] but > leave them out of [lang] at least for now. > > Do you agree? I agree that LANG is out of scope for EXEC and LAUNCHER. > Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo > > > On 5 June 2013 09:33, Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo wrote: > >> I have to admit that I am not very familiar with [exec] ... >> >> Let me have a look at [exec] (in about 9 hours) and I'll let you know wh= at >> I think about it. >> >> Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo >> >> >> On 4 June 2013 23:09, Gary Gregory wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo < >>> ricardoespsanto@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Gary, >>> > >>> > Thanks for your reply! >>> > >>> > I kinda was expecting that answer but I'm sort of curious as to what >>> > happens to a project that gets no love from anyone for a long while? >>> > >>> > The reason I'm asking this is that I have been buzzing around the >>> commons >>> > projects for a few days trying to find something I could be useful at >>> and >>> > seem to find projects that have a few good ideas as JIRAs some even w= ith >>> > patches attached but then have literally no action since two years or >>> so... >>> > >>> > So I guess my real question now is 'Is it possible to retake control = of >>> a >>> > project which has been left semi-abandoned?' >>> > >>> >>> Yes, development is based on contributions from the community. >>> >>> WRT [launcher], I wonder if we could merge it with [exec]. They seem to= do >>> the same kind of thing. They could be both folded into [lang] AFAIAC. >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo >>> > >>> > >>> > On 4 June 2013 22:28, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hi, >>> > > >>> > > No one is "in charge" of any Commons component. The community devel= ops >>> > and >>> > > supports Commons as each participant and member sees fit. >>> > > >>> > > Gary >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo < >>> > > ricardoespsanto@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Is there anyone in charge of this project? >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > Ricardo Esp=EDrito Santo >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org >>> > > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition< >>> > > http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>> > > JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>> > > Spring Batch in Action >>> > > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>> > > Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>> > > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition< >>> http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition >>> Spring Batch in Action >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org