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From Benedikt Ritter <benerit...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Chain] Any future plans for commons-chain?
Date Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:36:55 GMT
Hi Simo,

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Am 17.03.2013 um 11:05 schrieb Simone Tripodi <simonetripodi@apache.org>:

> Hi Steve!
> 
> I have to dig in the ML to find the discussion, anyway IIRC the
> CatalogFactory has been designed to be integrated in the XML/textual
> configuration, mixing a lot of pattern - not in the best way.
> With new Configuration design, we thought delegating the config
> implementation to resolve commands class name to instance,

Resolving classes by name will cause problems with OSGi. Are there other possibilities to
configure [chain]? Sorry I haven't looked at the sources yet, but will do asap. I'm interested
in getting involved in the development of this component.

Regards,
Benedikt

> rather than
> having this god class...
> 
> I'll point you to discussions anyway as soon as I find it!
> 
> Have a nice weekend, all the best!
> -Simo
> 
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> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Steve Westwood
> <steve.westwood@hexsaw.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Simone,
>> 
>> Thanks for this - happy to take a closer look a.s.a.p. However, what were/are yours
and Elijahs issues with the CatalogFactory?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: simone.tripodi@gmail.com [mailto:simone.tripodi@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Simone
Tripodi
>> Sent: 16 March 2013 21:04
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [Chain] Any future plans for commons-chain?
>> 
>> Hi again Steve,
>> 
>> another thing that came in my mind, is about a discussion between Elijah and I about
dropping completely the CatalogFactory and moving the ChainConfigurationException to the configuration
API module.
>> IIRC this is still related to CHAIN-76...
>> 
>> TIA!
>> -Simo
>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Simone Tripodi <simonetripodi@apache.org>
wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> thanks a lot for your interest on chains! :)
>>> 
>>> Documentation is never enough, so if you do have some more
>>> samples/hints/.../whatever, feel free to push one or more patches on
>>> JIRA, I'd be more than glad to apply it!
>>> Same thing for unit tests, or improve the test coverage - patches are
>>> more than welcome, and playing with tests is usually a good way to get
>>> familiar with codebase :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance for your involvement, hope to read from you soon!
>>> Have a nice day, all the best,
>>> -Simo
>>> 
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Steve Westwood
>>> <steve.westwood@hexsaw.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi Simone,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the response;
>>>> 
>>>> My first thought on commons-chain relate to the other 2.0 issues
>>>> apart from
>>>> CHAIN-76 that have been delivered (which is a lot I notice -
>>>> congratulations on getting to this point!). Are the changes in your
>>>> view stable and do they need further tests/samples to ensure all is
>>>> good (I haven't looked at test coverage yet). I notice cookbook
>>>> sample changes (CHAIN-66)  but do we need to provide more (plus amend
>>>> documentation) to provide certainty going forward?  I guess my
>>>> thinking relates to whether work such as CHAIN-76 is a
>>>> 2.0 or 2.1 issue.  I have no strong view on this although a move away
>>>> from XML-centric configuration is certainly desirable.
>>>> 
>>>> For CHAIN-76, I will apply the prototype patch to a copy of the 2.0
>>>> over the weekend and take a closer look at what you submitted. I need
>>>> to refresh my memory on commons-chain (its been a while...) but I
>>>> like to think I can get up to speed fairly quickly here.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>> From: simone.tripodi@gmail.com [mailto:simone.tripodi@gmail.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Simone Tripodi
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:01
>>>> 
>>>> To: Commons Developers List; Steve Westwood
>>>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Chain] Any future plans for commons-chain?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> very nice to hear there is someone willing to put new energies on
>>>> Chain! :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So, the latest step IMHO before to cut the first chain RC, is
>>>> CHAIN-76[1] where some work has already been done but far to be completed.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to give a help here, there's enough space to get involved
>>>> 
>>>> - I would be more than pleased to revamp my interest in Chains :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I hope to read from you soon!
>>>> 
>>>> All the best!
>>>> 
>>>> -Simo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CHAIN-76
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> 
>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>>> 
>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Steve Westwood
>>>> <steve.westwood@hexsaw.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I wanted to get a sense of what (if anything) is planned for
>>>> 
>>>>> commons-chain. I used this in some years ago, and for various
>>>>> reasons
>>>> 
>>>>> I now find myself returning to it. In examining the SVN trunk things
>>>>> have not stood still:
>>>> 
>>>>> - Discussions (and subsequent work) in 2011 to accommodate work as a
>>>> 
>>>>> precursor to a chains2 from of CHAIN-53
>>>> 
>>>>> - A fair bit of rework to accommodate Generics/Java 5 support
>>>> 
>>>>> - DSL like capability introduced
>>>> 
>>>>> - Refactoring
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Of course, the last release was 2008 (1.2), hence is 2.0  imminent,
>>>>> or
>>>> 
>>>>> are there other issues that require addressing prior to its roll-out?
>>>> 
>>>>> I have looked at JIRA, and I am aware of some debates via this list
>>>> 
>>>>> back in 2009 regarding the incorporation of aspects of  Robust-Task
>>>> 
>>>>> from  Min Cha (this has morphed into Whitetask - see
>>>> 
>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/whitetask/). In addition I note
>>>>> guice/spring integration has been raised in some form.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hence what are the next steps for commons-chain? I am more than
>>>>> happy
>>>> 
>>>>> to get involved with this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Steve Westwood
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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