Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8898DEA0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50719 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2012 13:50:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 50502 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2012 13:50:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 50493 invoked by uid 99); 18 Sep 2012 13:50:09 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:50:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [193.74.71.27] (HELO eir.is.scarlet.be) (193.74.71.27) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:50:01 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1347976180; bh=+cT740zMH1D+fTuuMMlnRyMmao/hOQbBc/O757GQQyM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=C7hZfNYtuUiL625cY3c0SS8b05BPMzNIcBh2dvp4k1w7n0UWG3zcFtoPzXd8tdqoy gSLtS2B9ThACcUrtNkTHZzJ4+giS7rhYU+3OG5uC06nSwh09BTZPWwCw/93TaNpYhF ri+hgXNWNN+X5cMykyGU0LRWq3wxB9GQ7S32NWZ0= Received: from mail.harfang.homelinux.org (ip-213-49-250-210.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.250.210]) by eir.is.scarlet.be (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8IDndw2009325 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:40 +0200 X-Scarlet: d=1347976180 c=213.49.250.210 Received: from localhost (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) by mail.harfang.homelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94B161B54 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.harfang.homelinux.org ([192.168.20.11]) by localhost (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4mjR9-jm8rMB for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dusk.harfang.homelinux.org (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) by mail.harfang.homelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A881561772 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eran by dusk.harfang.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TDyBC-0001sd-9y for dev@commons.apache.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:49:33 +0200 From: Gilles Sadowski To: dev@commons.apache.org Subject: Re: [all] xdoc vs. apt Message-ID: <20120918134933.GV20488@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org> Mail-Followup-To: dev@commons.apache.org References: <505795EB.6040200@free.fr> <8f9663fda98eb4c0eedb3fb012eb9d54@spaceroots.org> <8a1ff3c50746ebfb0527ef609ec83790@spaceroots.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8a1ff3c50746ebfb0527ef609ec83790@spaceroots.org> X-Operating-System: Tiny Tux X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 53B9 972E C2E6 B93C BEAD 7092 09E6 AF46 51D0 5641 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20002; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1-exp at eir X-Virus-Status: Clean Hi Luc. > > [...] > >> > >>So at least we have to think a little about it. > >> > >Another option would be this: since maven-site works with strict > >xhtml > >(unlike javadoc), we can embed MathML code in our pages. I'm not sure > >how we would do it in xdoc or apt, but we can certainly write our > >user's guide in xhtml (which would not make much of a difference as > >compared to xdoc). I know MathML is (very) verbose, but our site > >would > >then be fully self-sufficient. One approach I use quite consistently > >is to write MathML objects in *.mml files, which are included in the > >xhtml file. > > Please, don't go that way. MathML is really tough to write and to > read. It is something > that should be done only by tools, it's not an authoring environment. > > Really, MathJax (I think Gilles was the first to suggest it years > ago) Sorry, wrong pick again. ;-) IIRC, I once proposed to use something that would have allowed to insert LaTeX snippets in the Javadoc. [But I've now changed my mind (see my previous message).] > is a very good > option with its support to simpler syntax than MathML. Perhaps the > concerns I have > about hosting the files are stupid. Perhaps even if we decide to > host these files > it would be easy to do use local files for our own servers and have > the regular maven > build for users use the public cdn files. > > This is clearly related also to our migration to svnpubsub as this > will for sure > force us to change other things too. Nobody (among CM contributors) had the time to have a look at what needs to be done about this "svnpubsub" in order to update the CM part of the site. IMHO, this tells something about how risky it is to depend on tools that only a very few of us will have the time to learn. Regards, Gilles --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org