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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Fwd: [all] NSWC and Apache license
Date Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:49:36 GMT
FWIW -

I'm forwarding the following from BF who is involved with potentially using some of these
routines in FreeBSD.

Good luck.

Regards,
Dave

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "b. f." <bf1783@googlemail.com>
> Date: August 9, 2012 10:47:47 AM PDT
> To: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org>
> Cc: Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>, "bf@FreeBSD.org" <bf@freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [all] NSWC and Apache license
> Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com
> 
> On 8/9/12, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Dave;
>> 
>> The files are in a repository from bf@FreeBSD.org, a ports committer
>> that likes to play with math solvers.
>> 
>> I am not sure about the license and the date (1993) suggests the authors
>> may be difficult to contact. It looks like Public Domain to me.
>> 
>> Hi  bf. ... can you clarify the license of the NSWC routines?
>> 
> 
> Although I am not a lawyer, and I cannot be certain (given the varied
> provenance of the routines, and the fact that the library was
> assembled from 1976-1993), I believe they are in the public domain,
> because:
> 
> 1) One of the primary authors, Morris, says in an accompanying
> technical report (which has been marked for unlimited public
> distribution):
> 
> "The subroutines in the library originate from a variety of sources.
> Approximately
> 40% of the subroutines were developed at NSWCDD. The remaining
> subroutines are from
> government, commercial, and university research centers in the U.S.
> and abroad...
> 
> Since the beginning of the development of the library, no proprietary
> or otherwise
> restricted codes have been permitted in the library. Only general
> purpose mathematical
> subroutines for use by the entire NSWCDD scientific community have
> been considered for
> the library. Restrictions on the use of any library can severely
> impair its value, both for
> theoretical purposes (where the source codes are frequently of prime
> importance), and for
> general use in applications. Since expertise is so widely scattered,
> reliable codes are so very
> difficult to obtain, and many of the libraries do not provide source
> code, the policy has been
> to make the source code of the library readily available to the
> general scientific community." ;
> 
> 2) "works of the U.S. government" are not subject to domestic
> copyright protection in the U.S.; and
> 3) the library was widely distributed by NSWC-Dahlgren and JPL for a
> number of years.
> 
> I don't know how this would affect Apache-licensed software.  The
> mirrored files that you saw were for a FreeBSD Port of the NSWC
> Mathlib that I have not yet committed to a public repository.  In
> addition to the original versions of NSWC Mathlib found at the
> Canadian university website, and one or two other places, a few people
> also freely distribute modified versions of some of the routines, and
> later U.S. government reports contain some additions (see, for
> example, some of the reports by Didonato and others that can be found
> at: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/ ).
> 
> b.
> 
> 
>> best regards,
>> 
>> Pedro.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>> To: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:32 AM
>>> Subject: Fwd: [all] NSWC and Apache license
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>> 
>>> Do you have any knowledge or thoughts on this licensing question?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>>> Date: August 8, 2012 6:32:08 PM PDT
>>>> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>>>> Cc: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [all] NSWC and Apache license
>>>> Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>>>> delivered-to: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> INAL, but I am a recovering Fortran programmer.
>>>> 
>>>> I found the same repository under:
>>>> 
>>>> http://ftp.twaren.net/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bf/nswc/Intro
>>>> 
>>>> I think that these routines are public domain and there is no copyright
>>>> on the manual.
>>>> 
>>>> Really cool.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:36 PM, S├ębastien Brisard wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I'm currently working on MATH-738, and am considering porting part of
>>>>> the FORTRAN "NSWC Library of Mathematics Subroutines" [1] (Naval
>>>>> Surface Warfare Center).
>>>>> The website states
>>>>> 
>>>>>  "This software is made available, without cost, to the general
>>>>> scientific community. The 1993 edition is an update of the 1990
>>>>> edition."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does that mean that porting it into Commons-Math is possible
>>>>> (license-wise?). I would think it does...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your advice!
>>>>> 
>>>>> S├ębastien
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] http://www.ualberta.ca/CNS/RESEARCH/Software/NumericalNSWC/site.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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