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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [all] Move Jelly to dormant/orphaned?
Date Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:04:09 GMT
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think the whole formality of project state should be replaced with a
>>> live activity widget like can be seen on other sites. Commit activity
>>> and such. If someone were thinking of contributing to a project, the
>>> incentive would be removed or seriously diminished by a dead/sleepy
>>> project state.
>>
>> Interesting idea.
>>
>> You mean something like that?
>> https://www.ohloh.net/p/commons-compress
>>
>> Any ideas how we can get this data out from svn?
>> Probably besides svn an interesting metric is the number of discussion on ml.
>>
>> Question is how realistic is it we get something hacked together in
>> for example ruby?
>
> This is another kind of visualization:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsqldb/stats/scm?repo=SVNRepository
>
> I do not know what the best metric is, just that it would be nice to
> have /something/. See my other reply to Sebb in this thread.

Having "something" which shows the current state of the component
easily is already a good first step in my opinion.

But I still think we need then to decide to move a component to
another section or mark them otherwise as not active. It looks pretty
bad if a user surfes the components and every second seems to be dead.

Anyway... I just found this:

commons-compress$ svn --xml -v log

Returns a bunch of cool information. parsing this logfile might be
enough already to aggregate.
Perhaps a repos at labs.a.o might be a good place to start with that

Cheers
Christian

>
> Thank you,
> Gary
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:59, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Jelly did not see any activity for nearly two years:
>>>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fcommons%2Fproper%2Fjelly
>>>>
>>>> Last release was in 01.2010.
>>>>
>>>> We had already discussion on a process to move proper components into
>>>> another state, be it "dormant" or "inactive". I would like to
>>>> resurrect this discussion. We have had a lots of discussion in the
>>>> past: somebody wanted to progress with somehting, like graduating
>>>> graph or using Java 5 in a component and the response sometimes was we
>>>> have to less man power at Commons.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I think we need to tell the people for which components they
>>>> can expect releases and for which ones not. Otherwise outsiders may
>>>> look at a huge bunch of components and see only little activity.
>>>> Wouldn't it be better instead to show only a handful components which
>>>> are actively developed?
>>>>
>>>> Looking at Jelly, it is orphaned. No releases, no releases to be
>>>> expected. I would like to move it to dormant or to a new transition
>>>> state, if people wish so, maybe called "orphaned" or "inactive" or
>>>> whatever.
>>>>
>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>>
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