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From Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [lang] Running lang under a security manager and LANG-744
Date Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:19:10 GMT
On 9/2/11 4:06 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:21, Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne@joda.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2 September 2011 01:20, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Specifically for StringUtils, should we have a SunStringUtils? This would
>>> let you know that you are depending on com.sun code.
>> I really don't like that idea!
>>
>> Generally, it is non-Sun JVMs including Android that are the problem.
>> Lets just do the best we can on those.
>>
> But that is different that the actual issue of running under a
> security manager.

Right.  This thread is talking about two different issues.  What
actually caused the exception reported in the ticket is GAE
disallowing the privileged action.  GAE does not allow all kinds of
stuff.  You can't even load JCE providers.  The other form of
"crippled Java" is missing classes or APIs, which you run into with
Android.  I think your idea of testing with security managers is a
good one so that we can see and document what is going to blow up
with that kind of crippling.  Supporting Android or other crippled
environments is harder.  In both cases it comes down to volunteer
resources to a) do all the testing b) document the failures and c)
propose (and maybe get the community to agree on) workarounds. 
Personally, none of these activities are likely to make it to the
top of my always-too-long list of things to work on here, but I
won't complain and will apply patches that do no harm while making
more things work for more users.

Phil
>
> Gary
>
>> Stephen
>>
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