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From Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2
Date Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:30:58 GMT
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Simone Tripodi
<simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Matt!!!
> I noticed 2 important points I'd like to discuss:
>
> 1) generally speaking, the bigger part of the users are lazy: they
> just want to grab latest released artifact of XXX component with Maven
> and use it, so it is hard to obtain feedbacks from APIs not released
> yet;
> 2) committers/PMCs interested on Digester is reduced: we got two +1s,
> one +0 and I didn't express my opinion (If I would have done it, in my
> country they would have called me Mafia guy :D )
>
> I didn't understand when you wrote "I'm certainly not going to twist
> your arm": of course you wouldn't do it physically :D but I didn't
> understand in which sense :P
>

:)  Just an expression meaning to try to make you do something against
your will.

Matt

> Have a nice day, all the best!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Simone Tripodi
>> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all guys,
>>> looks like there's not enough activity/interest on new Digester, I
>>> suggest to suspend this topic for a while and come speaking about it
>>> until there will be interest from the users.
>>> Thanks to all that took part of the discussion!
>>> All the best, have a nice day,
>>> Simo
>>
>> Personally, I think that just because the users aren't clamoring for
>> the new API doesn't mean they wouldn't like it if Digester3 were
>> released.  At the same time, I'm certainly not going to twist your
>> arm.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Simone Tripodi
>>> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> thanks for the trust guys!!! I won't express my vote, it would be too
>>>> incorrect IMHO. I'll keep my finger crossed to see at least the 3
>>>> consensus :)
>>>> Have a nice weekend!
>>>> Simo
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Rahul,
>>>>>>>> thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more than
appreciated!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I underestimated the importance of the users over the active
>>>>>>>> developers, so I totally agree with you, moving to dormant
is
>>>>>>>> premature.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was aware about breaking APIs compatibility, since we had
to face
>>>>>>>> the same problem also in [pool2], I thought it would have
been a good
>>>>>>>> idea implementing the sandbox in the o.a.c.digester3[1] package,
looks
>>>>>>>> like it is compliant to the suggestions you proposed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like your idea of branching 1.X, 2.X and put 3 on trunk,
shall we
>>>>>>>> call a vote before going on?
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> I don't think we need a VOTE on this, I would say wait a couple
of more days to make sure we have (lazy) consensus and then just do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that I care for more process, but I'd like to see 3+ of us say
>>>>>> this is the API they'd like to see for digester3. We also generally
>>>>>> require votes for getting stuff out of sandbox so a vote may not
be a
>>>>>> bad idea (even if this isn't a new component, its a new API -- and
>>>>>> somewhere in there, the lines are blurred). I'm +0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hesitate to throw in an opinion as I've never really used digester,
but I quite like the API personally, and would +1 this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>>>
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