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From Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2
Date Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:12:13 GMT
hahaha thanks!
BTW I really hope there will be another chance to come back in charge
with this proposal :)
Have a nice day,
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Simone Tripodi
> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Matt!!!
>> I noticed 2 important points I'd like to discuss:
>>
>> 1) generally speaking, the bigger part of the users are lazy: they
>> just want to grab latest released artifact of XXX component with Maven
>> and use it, so it is hard to obtain feedbacks from APIs not released
>> yet;
>> 2) committers/PMCs interested on Digester is reduced: we got two +1s,
>> one +0 and I didn't express my opinion (If I would have done it, in my
>> country they would have called me Mafia guy :D )
>>
>> I didn't understand when you wrote "I'm certainly not going to twist
>> your arm": of course you wouldn't do it physically :D but I didn't
>> understand in which sense :P
>>
>
> :)  Just an expression meaning to try to make you do something against
> your will.
>
> Matt
>
>> Have a nice day, all the best!
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>> looks like there's not enough activity/interest on new Digester, I
>>>> suggest to suspend this topic for a while and come speaking about it
>>>> until there will be interest from the users.
>>>> Thanks to all that took part of the discussion!
>>>> All the best, have a nice day,
>>>> Simo
>>>
>>> Personally, I think that just because the users aren't clamoring for
>>> the new API doesn't mean they wouldn't like it if Digester3 were
>>> released.  At the same time, I'm certainly not going to twist your
>>> arm.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Simone Tripodi
>>>> <simonetripodi@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> thanks for the trust guys!!! I won't express my vote, it would be too
>>>>> incorrect IMHO. I'll keep my finger crossed to see at least the 3
>>>>> consensus :)
>>>>> Have a nice weekend!
>>>>> Simo
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rahul,
>>>>>>>>> thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more
than appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I underestimated the importance of the users over the
active
>>>>>>>>> developers, so I totally agree with you, moving to dormant
is
>>>>>>>>> premature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was aware about breaking APIs compatibility, since
we had to face
>>>>>>>>> the same problem also in [pool2], I thought it would
have been a good
>>>>>>>>> idea implementing the sandbox in the o.a.c.digester3[1]
package, looks
>>>>>>>>> like it is compliant to the suggestions you proposed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like your idea of branching 1.X, 2.X and put 3 on trunk,
shall we
>>>>>>>>> call a vote before going on?
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>> I don't think we need a VOTE on this, I would say wait a
couple of more days to make sure we have (lazy) consensus and then just do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not that I care for more process, but I'd like to see 3+ of us
say
>>>>>>> this is the API they'd like to see for digester3. We also generally
>>>>>>> require votes for getting stuff out of sandbox so a vote may
not be a
>>>>>>> bad idea (even if this isn't a new component, its a new API --
and
>>>>>>> somewhere in there, the lines are blurred). I'm +0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hesitate to throw in an opinion as I've never really used digester,
but I quite like the API personally, and would +1 this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rahul
>>>>>>>
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