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From Mark Thomas <>
Subject Re: Trademakrs and logos. WAS beanutils commit msg...
Date Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:41:16 GMT
On 12/03/2011 15:52, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 3/12/11 8:45 AM, sebb wrote:
>> On 12 March 2011 04:20, Phil Steitz <> wrote:
>>> I thought we had agreed that we are not going to do this, i.e.,
>>> maintain that commons-foo is *not* an ASF trademark.  Otherwise, we
>>> need to be prepared to defend all of these "trademarks" which makes
>>> no sense to me personally.
>> I thought you just meant that we should not claim "Commons" as a
>> trademark, rather than not claiming any "Commons YYY" names as marks.
>> However whatever happens re Commons, we still need to claim trademark
>> on Apache at the bottom of our pages (so most of the work was needed
>> anyway).
>> I don't really mind what is decided, so long as it is agreed with @Trademarks.
> OK.  I just asked on board@.  They may toss it over to trademarks,
> but I personally see this as first a Commons decision, which the
> Board could require us to change.
> Please anyone else chime in with different opinions.  I want to make
> sure I am not misrepresenting our views.

I think we would have difficulty claiming "Commons" as a trademark.

I think we should be claiming/protecting:
- Apache Commons
- Apache Commons Foo
- Commons Foo


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