Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31405 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 04:59:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 04:59:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19900 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2011 04:59:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 19497 invoked by uid 500); 22 Feb 2011 04:59:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 19489 invoked by uid 99); 22 Feb 2011 04:59:50 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:59:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of gudnabrsam@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.49] (HELO mail-ww0-f49.google.com) (74.125.82.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:59:42 +0000 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so6642385wwb.6 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:59:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1LHUAlCA45VvjAbAbUy0alXubHzdn0RP/73hwVP1jT0=; b=QdPJoNdxaezdX4gQXHNe1vm/KR8TU1p4RO8Ayw5c3r5EfoWKipEqOY9K4pM0K8paqq fm0e+bkakLZKFbi1+Z1BYilvxJXR1hKEf5JJ3BCJSe5vdXyKcTPf3McOJtCLMMFyjhSG ZJmfohtrSYS0UmLg+6KjK2rBznv2v6ww/oNYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=e3WxjI69ERQi13J8vA8NoYsmcu3IpnoYOU65QmRNxzOhy49phY+FsOnWpIueWfUJhr BjzhQhVmC3F8ZpIyKoA0PC/jILVtmzlIy8DbF4g3U2sN1hg62jbqmGfKYcR9yKlHy26y Pnw7CmZh+UVgh93BH/VQhpXspFu+lSfPiOVVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.4.83 with SMTP id 61mr2723448wei.67.1298350762549; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.157.8 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:59:22 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: gudnabrsam@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:59:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [collections] retire or release? From: Matt Benson To: dev@commons.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f791e4fee223049cd7d7a9 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001485f791e4fee223049cd7d7a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So to continue the 3.3 discussion, it looks like Hen created an RC1 nearly 2 years ago... :) But he also tagged the point just before the generics branch was merged back to trunk. Shall we create a 3_X branch from this tag? Matt On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > Gmail f*cked me over: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Matt Benson > Date: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [collections] retire or release? > To: Henri Yandell > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> I'd like to see a 3.3; I think we have a branch that had a lot of >> bugfixes on it before the 4.0 merge. >> >> > +1, if for no other reason than to announce (some of?) the deprecations > planned in 4.0 (see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COLLECTIONS-251 > ). > > >> 4.0 - painful to have a working product there and not release, yet not >> sure there's much point if there isn't enough energy to do subsequent >> releases. >> >> Point taken, but as mature as the codebase is, and let's face it--it's > still mostly the same codebase--I wouldn't expect ongoing maintenance to be > nearly the chore that getting 4.0 ready has been. > > Matt > > >> Hen >> >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Matt Benson >> wrote: >> > Obviously it sucks how long it's been since we've had a release. >> Apparently >> > Stephen C was the heart & soul of the project. :) I've been trying to >> make >> > a little time for it lately, but it would seem that several of us across >> the >> > project have been somewhat short of time for the past couple of years >> now. >> > I just hate to see us retire it when we're *so* close to having 4.0 >> > ready.... aren't we? >> > >> > Matt >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Release, then retire? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Henri Yandell >> wrote: >> >> > Seeing this bug reported for the Nth time: >> >> > >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COLLECTIONS-371 >> >> > >> >> > I wonder if collections should be declared dead. It's a dumb bug, >> >> > (removeAll calling retainAll), and users have had to put up with it >> >> > for years now. >> >> > >> >> > Hen >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I Am What I Am And That's All What I Yam (Popeye) >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > --001485f791e4fee223049cd7d7a9--