Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89548 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2011 15:00:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Feb 2011 15:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 51629 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2011 15:00:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 51091 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2011 15:00:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 51068 invoked by uid 99); 21 Feb 2011 15:00:38 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:00:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [193.74.71.28] (HELO sif.is.scarlet.be) (193.74.71.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:00:32 +0000 Received: from mail.harfang.homelinux.org (ip-62-235-219-192.dsl.scarlet.be [62.235.219.192]) by sif.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p1LF09CS029393 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:10 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1298300410; bh=lu7D6HRnTqzNc4t98nhcJeAkFBOT07UQi6BPT4LWEhs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=xQqV9CaVokT76UoaGwEfPpEiZBzGJ+bLr4auZr2tB/UMR0Q3Nqddodtpfm1hjLx9y 4o1E5dwJd18E3j6Ks/Wp6qHf3iWP9VZrM/n0B6Y1sbBVCcRJXLu/J5EhLLsNAx3c3g 6eK6iq+3sr3n+AJtFqUSdFkqGfaceFXvEAGHVRq8= Received: from localhost (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) by mail.harfang.homelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA15617B3 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.harfang.homelinux.org ([192.168.20.11]) by localhost (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hx3bGiIagr7n for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from dusk.harfang.homelinux.org (mail.harfang.homelinux.org [192.168.20.11]) by mail.harfang.homelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBA56175D for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from eran by dusk.harfang.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PrXF7-00068m-U4 for dev@commons.apache.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:05 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:00:04 +0100 From: Gilles Sadowski To: dev@commons.apache.org Subject: Re: [MATH] Matrix hierarchy reorganization Message-ID: <20110221150004.GA22170@dusk.harfang.homelinux.org> Mail-Followup-To: dev@commons.apache.org References: <120223801.6201751298294211434.JavaMail.root@spooler6-g27.priv.proxad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <120223801.6201751298294211434.JavaMail.root@spooler6-g27.priv.proxad.net> X-Operating-System: Tiny Tux X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 53B9 972E C2E6 B93C BEAD 7092 09E6 AF46 51D0 5641 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20002; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 > [...] > > The things we will for sure have some difficult discussions are: > - dependencies > (I guess Phil and myself don't like dependencies, whereas Ted and Gilles > are happy with them) My position is probably best summarized as follows: 1. I'm against dependencies for everything concerning the "core business" of Commons Math: A light-weight library of mathematical algorithms. 2. I'm for dependencies when avoiding them means re-inventing the wheel (e.g. localization, logging). 3. Consistently with point 1, I'm against locking CM in self-inflicted dependencies, a.o. publicizing an API that does not belong to the "core business". > What I would like to see: > - more exchanges with the Mahout community Are you ready to depend on their library? > [...] Best regards, Gilles --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org