Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 53660 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2010 14:56:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 25 Oct 2010 14:56:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 31277 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2010 14:56:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 31092 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2010 14:56:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 31084 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2010 14:56:19 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:56:19 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of phil.steitz@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.171] (HELO mail-gy0-f171.google.com) (209.85.160.171) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:56:11 +0000 Received: by gyd12 with SMTP id 12so2318222gyd.30 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xLlNxiId2BtCxV9ZJECV71+z4zxz1Qj16IzJNaa6tag=; b=kk9tEpoU8yL6W49mWXp3HBnoCrtxCjVcvU4F6HFZAWTbqZAg2nmPD0HYWtKbbqYt2X QT09sjFuhGZv645QY5fBTiX4F3zNi6OdiY9HYgnDOIN8+h+NxNA2umO0wOxU3aZFcAZY dTbVJHAt2eaB3/yC97WLU86L4aveUDGQj3/jI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lb7MFj89YmMJVkXxA41SmDztQMjOjr1wCu0nCwNAbSNi0Bsi21CP6WTj3pb/Gb2XSZ YZg0EhwEUvXsfiblWhVfki++n0rlWN9HS/ht3A6uTYVKfX/MGfj+0Qv9n0xSJZR/nY7z Qy5PjPquxfVUNDx0wVmVR3RWD5+SxUYgnHFxY= Received: by 10.239.183.67 with SMTP id t3mr219319hbg.90.1288018544969; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 174-146-142-118.pools.spcsdns.net (174-146-142-118.pools.spcsdns.net [174.146.142.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q3sm1635373vcr.27.2010.10.25.07.55.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CC59A6A.4040602@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:55:38 -0400 From: Phil Steitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Thunderbird/3.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config References: <02AA127CD8DCDE48BC7D2DFB6C87083A07DB70FB@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com> <02AA127CD8DCDE48BC7D2DFB6C87083A07DB7D37@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com> <02AA127CD8DCDE48BC7D2DFB6C87083A07DB8542@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com> <02AA127CD8DCDE48BC7D2DFB6C87083A07DB8A48@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 10/25/10 10:51 AM, Steven Siebert wrote: > Simo, > > You make a good point, especially with the groupId/package change. > > POOL-169 did implement some deprecations for changes from 1.5 to 2.0, so > this isn't without precedent and consistency (even for the sake of > consistency in commons-* subprojects, IMO) is important. Honestly, I could > go either way...just wanted to make sure it was considered =) > I agree with both of you. Probably best to give the signal, consistently with what we have been doing up to now. More information to help people plan for the upgrade is better. Phil > S > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Simone Tripodi > wrote: > >> Hi Steven :) >> thanks for the explanation, as far as I understand there are a lot of >> things I can learn from you about JMX so I started feeling impatient >> to see your commits :P >> >> I don't think we should mark with @Deprecate removed ctors, classes >> are now living in a fresh new package so, as user, I wouldn't expect >> retro-compatibility at all. When upgrading a major revision, I expect >> a completely (or partially, in that case) new version of the >> library... maybe I'm wrong but my instinct suggests me a 2.0 version >> could be even a completely rewrite of the 1.5. >> BTW that's just my opinion :P >> >> Have a nice day, >> Simo >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Steven Siebert wrote: >>> Simone, >>> >>> I'm sorry I'm confusing, so many thoughts going though my mind =) >>> >>> yes, I think the best approach is to provide a separate class for the >>> JMX...but I'm thinking that doing a private inner class (non-static) in >> each >>> pool would be the cleanest way to do so. This way, the MBean (instance) >>> would have direct access to both the config values (read/write) as well >> as >>> the ability to invoke pool methods (such as getNumwaiters(), POOL-159). >>> This would significantly cut down on the bootstrapping of having to >> register >>> the config and pool with the MBean. >>> >>> Once I get home, I'll attach a JMX patch to POOL-172 using your latest >>> commit. >>> >>> I noticed your two JIRA tickets for the concurrency and builder >>> pattern....should one be submitted to add the @deprecated tag to the 1.5 >> API >>> for the various classes, methods, and constructors we're blowing away? >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Simone Tripodi< >> simone.tripodi@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Steven, >>>> very sorry to have missed the Jira notifications, just checked now >>>> after read your email. Sorry! :( >>>> >>>> I thought the idea was adding JMX support directly on factory/pool and >>>> not on Configuration, btw not being JMX expert this will be a good >>>> chance to learn... I'll fill a new Jira issue for adding thread safety >>>> support on configuration classes, and start to study how to do it in >>>> the best way. >>>> >>>> I like the Builder idea, my +1 for that, take it in consideration as >>>> already done :P >>>> >>>> Have a nice day and thanks for the feedbacks! >>>> Simo >>>> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Steven Siebert >> wrote: >>>>> Hi Simone, >>>>> >>>>> You have two +1's waiting for you in the JIRA comments =) >>>>> >>>>> My comments from tracker: >>>>> >>>>> "I took a look at this last night but didn't get a chance to comment >> =) >>>>> >>>>> I like the patch, I believe this does indeed satisfy the issue. >>>>> >>>>> One question I have, since we're eliminating the primitive >> configuration >>>>> properties within the pool/factory classes, we're making the Config >>>> objects >>>>> publicly accessible, and possibly accessing through JMX is the idea of >>>>> making the Config objects thread-safe. This would certainly reduce the >>>> need >>>>> to have to externally synchronize (and possibly introduce bugs) every >>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> Another issue we probably need to open another ticket for is to >> deprecate >>>>> the constructors we've eliminated in 1.5. >>>>> >>>>> Last suggestion/question is about making inner (public static final) >>>> Builder >>>>> pattern classes within the concrete Config classes (and possibly >> defining >>>> an >>>>> abstract create() method in the Abstract >>>> class). >>>>> This would further simplify the programmatic creation of the Config >>>> classes. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> +1 on Simones patch...we can add any of the above after it has been >>>>> committed." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Respectfully, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Simone Tripodi< >>>> simone.tripodi@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all mates, >>>>>> I updated the jira issue uploading my patch; it contains the >>>>>> configuration extraction and some code modification. >>>>>> IMHO we shouldn't replicate the same data in both configuration AND >>>>>> factory/pool, when creating the factory/pool it is enough storing the >>>>>> configuration reference, just use it. >>>>>> I intentionally missed the interfaces layer, since they can be added >>>>>> directly in the JMX support in the required form. >>>>>> Please take a look at the patch and provide feedbacks, if you agree I >>>>>> could start committing the modifications and proceed on JMX support. >>>>>> Have a nice day, >>>>>> Simo >>>>>> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Gary Gregory >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Steven Siebert [mailto:smsiebe@gmail.com] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 18:08 >>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gary, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great work so far. I'm checking out the diffs now, I'm gonna hack >>>> out >>>>>> some >>>>>>>> simple UML "diffs", if only to wrap my head around it all. I'll >>>> upload >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> file to the issue once complete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTW, I hope I didn't offend with the 'academic' comment, I >>>>>>>> most certainly did not intend to infer that there weren't >> functional >>>>>>>> importances to this issue. I was mostly trying to delineate the >> two >>>>>> issues >>>>>>>> in my mind, and putting it to "paper" was a good way to do that =) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Steven, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No offense even considered from this end :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm glad we are going through this exercise. This will improve the >>>>>> software I am sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Phil Steitz [mailto:phil.steitz@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 06:29 >>>>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/21/10, Simone Tripodi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> it seems you've been doing a very good work, the only thing >> I >>>>>> *suggest* >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * simplifying the mutable/immutable interfaces, one >> interface >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> already known common (im)mutable fields should be enough; >>>>>>>>>>> * adding/renaming the interfaces with the`MBean` >>>>>> postfix to >>>>>>>>>>> be ready for JMX support; >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> btw it seems you're now much more deep inside the topic than >> me >>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry I have been a little slow on this. I will have a >> careful >>>> look >>>>>>>>>> this eve. Based on a very quick review, I am +1 on the idea >> and >>>>>>>>>> approach to separate mutable / immutable. Also +1 for JMX >>>> support. >>>>>>>>>> Two quick things to keep top of mind: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Please make sure not to lose documentation. Whatever is >>>>>>>>>> documented today in protected field / internal getters / >> setters >>>>>> docs >>>>>>>>>> needs to be carried forward. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Check. I did not check as I refactored that Javadocs were in the >>>> right >>>>>>>>> places. That would be a requirement for a real patch. I only >> meant >>>>>> this as >>>>>>>>> an experiment that went a lot further than I thought. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. Somewhat related - I am fine just plowing ahead for now >> using >>>>>>>>>> existing API concepts, but some of those concepts are >>>> anachronistic >>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> broken, IMO, so we may later decide to revamp much of the >>>>>> "accounting" >>>>>>>>>> aspects of the API. That we should and will discuss on other >>>>>>>>>> threads. One thing that might be good to think about at this >>>> point, >>>>>>>>>> however, is getting rid of primitive properties (we started >> that >>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> whenExhaustedAction). I think there is a DBCP issue on this >>>> raised >>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> Dain a couple of years ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be nice to track this someplace, I am not sure if >> Javadoc >>>> is >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> right place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all for moving this along! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Simone Tripodi [mailto:simone.tripodi@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 22:41 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary! >>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately the link replied with 404 code, can you give >> me >>>>>> please >>>>>>>>>>>>> the issue ID? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/POOL-173 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've updated the diff file a couple of times since my >> initial >>>>>> msg. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Simone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see my experiment in progress here >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12457710/pool2config.diff >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rocket Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 * Atlanta, GA 30326 * USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Simone Tripodi [mailto:simone.tripodi@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 14:53 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for not having been clear, but in my previous >> email >>>> my >>>>>>>>> intent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was saying that depending on how we manage the Config >>>> class, >>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influence de JMX support design, nothing more, and >> since >>>> I'm >>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert on JMX I was waiting for feedbacks from who >> knows >>>> more >>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About Gary's question, I had the following thought >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractGenericObjectPoolConfig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - int maxIdle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - int minIdle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - int maxActive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - long maxWait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - WhenExhaustedAction whenExhaustedAction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - boolean testOnBorrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - boolean testOnReturn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - boolean testWhileIdle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - long timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - int numTestsPerEvictionRun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - long minEvictableIdleTimeMillis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - boolean lifo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericObjectPoolConfig extends >>>>>> AbstractGenericObjectPoolConfig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - long softMinEvictableIdleTimeMillis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericKeyedObjectPoolConfig extends >>>> GenericObjectPoolConfig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - int maxTotal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the pools: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class GenericObjectPool { >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + GenericObjectPool(GenericObjectPoolFactory factory) >> { >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this(factory, new GenericObjectPoolConfig()); >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + GenericObjectPool(GenericObjectPoolFactory factory, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericObjectPoolConfig config) {...} >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + GenericObjectPoolConfig getConfig() {...} >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing for the Keyed version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too simple and stupid? Maybe. But reduces the >> redundancies >>>> to >>>>>> 0. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover I'm not sure it is just an academical way to >>>>>> approach the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue, I'm sure it is more than pragmatic, simplifying >> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintainability and makes easier keep in synch the Pool >>>> and >>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Factory configuration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents, now off to bed due my local timezone >> :P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I am doing an experimental refactoring to see what >>>> the >>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like with a Config class extracted and I ran into the >>>>>> following. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The class GenericObjectPool has an >>>>>>>>> _softMinEvictableIdleTimeMillis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivar >>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the equivalent GenericKeyedObjectPool does not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that a little hole in implementation that could >> have >>>>>> been >>>>>>>>> avoided >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common classes used for config? Even if >>>>>> GenericKeyedObjectPool >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throw >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "not implemented" exception. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rocket Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 * Atlanta, GA 30326 * >> USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Simone Tripodi [mailto: >> simone.tripodi@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure, I always wait for feedbacks before coding :P >> Cool >>>>>>>>> expression >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rambo through the code", that was the first time I >>>> read >>>>>> it and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me laugh :D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me there is a reason the code is the >> way >>>> it >>>>>> is so >>>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to hear thoughts from some of the original >> authors >>>>>> before >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rambo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the code ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:13, "Simone Tripodi" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes that's me that raised the question[1] and >>>> discussed >>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seb. What blocked me was the JMX support proposal >>>> since >>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with that technology, so I was >> consulting >>>>>>>>> documentation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> study. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My very big +1 for that, with the wish of work >>>> directly >>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone else has a different thought, before >>>> proceeding? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/q4y7ghux57s7hk6v >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/< >> http://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the same department, I see the following >> ivars: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifo : boolean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxActive : int >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxIdle : int >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxTotal : int >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maxWait : long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minEvictableIdleTimeMillis : long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minIdle : int >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numTestsPerEvictionRun : int >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testOnBorrow : boolean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testOnReturn : boolean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testWhileIdle : boolean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis : long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whenExhaustedAction : WhenExhaustedAction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in four classes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericKeyedObjectPool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericKeyedObjectPoolFactory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericObjectPool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericObjectPoolFactory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which feels to me like a missed opportunity to >>>> avoid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duplication. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is making one ivar private or final or volatile >> be >>>>>> applied >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>> four >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use a config object instead of the 13 ivars. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a common superclass then we can consider if >> it >>>>>> should >>>>>>>>> hold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ivar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list or a Config object. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be too weird to have a common super >> class >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> BaseObjectPool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BasePoolableObjectFactory for example? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rocket Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 . Atlanta, GA >> 30326 >>>> . >>>>>> USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Gary Gregory [mailto: >>>>>> GGregory@seagullsoftware.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:29 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Commons Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [pool] Reusing Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this came up recently. Any thoughts or >>>> plans >>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extracting >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class out of GenericKeyedObjectPool and >>>>>> GenericObjectPool >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it can >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The constants for default values could then >> also >>>> be >>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> Config. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Gregory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rocket Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 * Atlanta, GA >> 30326 >>>> * >>>>>> USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +1.404.760.1560 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ggregory@seagullsoftware.com>>>>> ggregory@seagullsoftware.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seagull.rocketsoftware.com< >>>>>> http://www.seagull.rocketsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org