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From Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Nexus for mvn management WAS Re: [LANG][COLLECTIONS] Beta releases
Date Fri, 21 May 2010 14:13:53 GMT
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:54 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/03/2010, Matt Benson <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:50 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What was the release process for the sandbox component you and Ralph
>> released?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > To be precise, Ralph and I had worked with Nexus on separate components,
>> and as those were sandbox components it goes without saying that they've not
>> been through the entire release process.  We've only published snapshots,
>> and as far as that's concerned, it's not _that_ huge a difference.  I feel
>> that I have had less trouble publishing snapshots to Nexus than I had to
>> p.a.o, though it's been so long I honestly can't recall what precisely my
>> problems were--I have a dim recollection of the whole process going to hell
>> and my having to manually delete stuff from p.a.o to get things working.  I
>> also mentioned that "this is the way the wind is blowing":  it would appear
>> that the entire ASF is moving toward using repository.a.o and in this case
>> there's not much point in my trying to sell it, particularly as I personally
>> am not known to be a big fan of mvn in general.  :P  However, I will
>> continue with my stammering attempt to explain the additional benefits of
>> this change, at risk of failure due to my admittedly shallow understanding
>> of the whole process.  The primary benefit to the release cycle, as I
>> understand it, is the support of the staging step.  From what I can glean
>> from the documentation, it would seem that when Nexus is used as the target
>> repository of a release, a temporary "staging repository" is generated for
>> your release.  You then provide the staging repository's URL as the basis
>> for the release vote, and, once the vote is successfully completed, you use
>> the Nexus UI to promote the entire staging repo to public availability.  In
>> particular, the best soup-to-nuts detail is to be had from
>> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html
>> which purports to be a start-to-finish guide for releasing _any_ Maven-based
>> ASF project.  Noting that our own Commons release instructions have never
>> _seemed_ fully-baked (and this is meant with no offense to any of the
>> contributors to said documentation), what's available from the mvn team
>> would presumably be a step forward to making the release process less
>> onerous.  The referenced URL also mentions things like cutting the release
>> tag for you, but I am pretty sure this is functionality that has existed in
>> mvn for quite some time; in fact the details of how to support the RC-based
>> approach we use @ Commons would be my only question/concern.  As a member of
>> both the Commons and Maven PMCs, and the other "suspect" in this case, I
>> wonder if Ralph would have more useful details for us here; Dennis's input
>> would be similarly welcome.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > I assume I am the Ralph you are referring to?
>> >
>>
>>  Do you know another Ralph on both the Commons and Maven PMCs?  ;P
>>
>>
>> > To be fair, when I was trying to get the Maven 2 build to work for VFS I
>> knew Brian Fox was setting up the Nexus repositories for Apache and that
>> they were meant to replace the existing infrastructure. As I recall he gave
>> me the settings to use to publish to it, but VFS has not had any releases to
>> validate it.
>> >
>>
>>  I did mention that there had been no releases.
>>
>>
>> > I've been using Nexus at work for a year,
>> >
>>
>>  Same here.
>>
>>
>> > I know the central repo is running on Nexus and I know the Apache repo
>> Brian set up has been running for a while now. I see no reason not to use
>> it. My understanding is that that repository is where Maven central expects
>> to find new ASF artifacts.
>> >
>>
>>  That sounds like more informative articulation of my "wind direction"
>> comment; thanks.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Other than that, I don't know that I have much useful info to provide,
>> however I am sure that Brian Fox would be happy to provide more guidance if
>> needed.
>
> I've just started using Nexus on Jakarta BSF, and it is easy to use,
> as well has having the benefits of:
> + avoiding accidental release
> + providing access to final artifacts for inspection/voting before release.
> + allowing snapshot release for inspection
> + checks that sigs are OK (I forgot to upload my new sig and it
> complained when I tried to close the upload ready for review)
>
> I've been involved here with Compress, so I've suggested that we trial
> Nexus for the upcoming release. If that is accepted and goes well, I
> think we should roll it out for all Commons projects.
>
> AFAIK, we don't need to change the commons parent POM for this (but
> this will be apparent shortly!).
>
> We may need to request Nexus access for Commons (not sure if it has
> already been done) but I'm happy to progress that.

AFAIK you need to create a JIRA issue and paste in the link to a
successful vote thread from the project - see:

   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1896

Also am I right in thinking that any component that wants to do this
would need to move to a groupid of "org.apache.commons"?

Niall

> WDYT?

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