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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VALIDATOR] Proposal for a JSR-303 Bean Validation Implementation
Date Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:55:33 GMT
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Matthias Wessendorf<matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Mohammad Nour
> El-Din<nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I support either solution 1 or 2 from first section of solutions:
>>
>> 1- We will not be waiting for others till they decide whether donate
>> the code or not.
>
> RH donation will not happen - we could fork, the license is just fine for it.
> But yeah, why forking a RI ? :-)
>

In that case I think we go and start with refactoring/re-writing the
current commons validator impl.

> I like the incubator style a little bit better than the commons sandbox.
>
>>
>> 2- We will get more benefit for ASF as we may gain more committer to
>> join the community and help grow it more.
>>
>> 3- For the non-committers contribution to the code, I think it is not
>> a problem as it is the normal case for ASF projects, these
>> contributions make us gain more committers in the future and hence
>> more support for ASF.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Donald Woods<dwoods@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Everyone, I think it is time again to reopen the discussions around creating
>>> a Validator2 release [1], which implements the upcoming JSR-303 Bean
>>> Validation spec [2] and [3].  Since JSR-303 is now a required component of
>>> Java EE 6 application servers and must be supported by JSR-314 JSF2 and
>>> JSR-317 JPA2, there is growing interest in the Apache Geronimo, Apache
>>> OpenJPA, Apache MyFaces and Apache OpenEJB projects to grow and maintain a
>>> JSR-303 implementation at Apache.
>>>
>>> First, to meet this goal, I would like us to consider the following options:
>>>
>>> I. - Commons Sandbox
>>> Utilize the existing validator2 sandbox area [4] to collaborate on a JSR-303
>>> implementation which would eventually become commons-validator-2.0.
>>> Pros:  Existing Apache committers can be given access to the sandbox and
>>> work with the Commons community to become committers.
>>> Cons:  Non-committers must provide patches and build karma, even before the
>>> project is moved out of the sandbox (we have interest from two companies to
>>> help, but most of their potential contributors are not Apache committers.)
>>>
>>> II. - Apache Incubator
>>> Submit an incubator proposal to create a JSR-303 focused project, which
>>> would be sponsored by the Commons PMC and/or Geronimo PMC with the goal
>>> being that the candidate proposal would become a sub-project of Commons as
>>> the new Validator R2 code base.
>>> Pros:  Allows us to seed the initial project with non-committers and
>>> demonstrate there is broad support for this project.
>>> Cons:  Additional incubator proposal and graduation overhead, along with not
>>> working closely with the whole Commons community on developing the new code
>>> base.
>>>
>>>
>>> Secondly, we have two existing JSR-303 implementations that we could
>>> possibly use to help bootstrap this effort:
>>>
>>> I. - Agimatec-Validation project on Google Code
>>> Code uses ASL 2.0 and I have approached one of the Agimatec GmbH employees
>>> about possibly donating the existing code to Apache.
>>>
>>> II. - JSR-303 RI
>>> Code being developed by Red Hat as the RI using ASL 2.0.  Kevin Sutter from
>>> the OpenJPA team has approached Emmanuel at Red Hat on this subject, but it
>>> is doubtful we would see a code donation, but could pull it in as
>>> third-party code to get started.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know your thoughts, as we would like to get this bootstrapped
>>> this month, as the Geronimo community is starting to put together our plans
>>> for a Geronimo 3.0 release in 2010 for a Java EE 6 application server.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Donald Woods
>>> Apache Geronimo Committer and PMC member
>>> Apache OpenJPA Committer and PMC member
>>> dwoods.AT.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VALIDATOR-279
>>>
>>> [2] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303
>>>
>>> [3] http://people.redhat.com/~ebernard/validation/
>>>
>>> [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/sandbox/validator2/trunk
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
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Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

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