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From Ceki Gulcu <>
Subject Re: sanctioning commons-logging version "99.0-does-not-exist"
Date Sun, 17 May 2009 16:50:38 GMT

Henri Yandell wrote:

> We're not actually ceding control though. I'm assuming the 0.0 or 99.0
> version will be released through us etc etc. As you're an Apache
> committer I don't see any reason why that should be an issue. If we
> need to release a 0.0.0 (or whatever) later to fix an issue in the
> empty pom, we could.

True. BTW, thank you for rekindling this thread.

> In terms of helping sfl4j gain marketshare at commons-logging's loss -
> more power to slf4j. You don't gain anything long term by
> protectionism.

I agree. However, you need to have a certain perspective to come to
that realization.

> Something for the Maven guys to try and solve before that day arrives I guess.
> Wonder what Phil et al think to making DBCP dependent on SFL4J :)
> Anyway +1 to the 0.0 approach. I like the 'zero'ness of it to imply
> that you're getting nothing, as opposed to 99 which feels more like
> there is something there. As long as it fills your needs, and protects
> from any LATEST issues it sounds like a win-win.

Very good. I'll start working on this in a 0.0 branch and once done, submit for 
a vote on a release.

> Hen

Ceki Gülcü
Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java.

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