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From sebb <>
Subject Re: AW: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven
Date Wed, 13 May 2009 22:31:21 GMT
On 13/05/2009, Dan Fabulich <> wrote:
> Mark Struberg wrote:
> >
> >
> > > So if you tag the RC as DBUTILS_1_2_RC1 then the source code includes
> "RC1".  If you then later copy that tag to "DBUTILS_1_2" the source code
> will still say "RC1".
> > >
> >
> > Sorry Dan, there are a lot things missing in mavens release process, but
> this very thing is imho not a problem with maven but with the weirdness of
> SVN handling tags. If you make a svn:copy, then you _will_
> create_a_new_tag_! So pom.xml still contains exactly that what has been
> released, and not only pom.xml, but _ALL_ release artifacts e.g. the
> sources.tar.gz, etc. Renaming tags, moving tags etc is essentially a no-no
> if you don't perform a build from that exact location afterwards. SVN
> guaranties atomic operations - at least _almost_ always. And I've seen a lot
> of weirdness in my last 20 years of using SCMs where this 'almost' did
> matter a lot ;) If you have to make sure 100%, then you have to build from
> the exact location.
> >
>  I agree that subversion tags are silly, and on many projects I own, I don't
> use them; I just record the revision number in a wiki and call that a "tag."

But then the information is held in two places.

An immutable tag does both for you: assuming the name is chosen
properly, it documents what the revision contains as well as storing
the revision number (last changed revision). I think it's a lot easier
to find the source code for a particular version in SVN if it is
associated with a tag.

>  With that said, I don't actually want to release a binary from one tag and
> then copy to another.  (I didn't mean to suggest that I wanted that in my
> previous reply.)
>  I just wish the source code files didn't contain a line saying "This is
> RC3"; because then, when we decide that RC3 is final, I have to change the
> code one last time to make it actually final.
> > What's wrong with the maven-staging? You tag as if you do a release (with
> exact that tag in SVN and pom.xml) but the results will not be deployed to
> the final repo but only to a staging repo. Maybe I only missed that part of
> the discussion, sorry for the noise then.
> >
>  To recap: Performing the release "as if" it were final is a wise
> workaround, but when you use the release plugin to do it, it will create a
> tag for you, which creates a riddle as to whether you want to call the tag
> "_RC3" or whether you want to just give it the final name, forcing you to
> modify the tag (delete/recreate) if RC4 is necessary.  (The idea here being
> that deleting/recreating tags is bad.)
>  -Dan
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