Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37290 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2009 09:40:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 2009 09:40:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 44147 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2009 09:40:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 44030 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2009 09:40:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 44020 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2009 09:40:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:40:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [85.218.33.218] (HELO mail.qos.ch) (85.218.33.218) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:40:29 +0000 Received: by mail.qos.ch (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 40AC6229019; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:40:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-gr0 (2008-06-10) on torino X-Spam-Level: Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [192.168.1.7]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC940228E44 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F03779.8020105@qos.ch> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:40:09 +0200 From: Ceki Gulcu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@commons.apache.org Subject: Re: commons-logging unsuited for cross-context webapplication invocation usage - migrating to slf4j? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-gr0 On 2009-04-22 16:17:52 GMT, John Bollinger wrote: > Furthermore, it seems clear that the class loading issues CL has > exhibited, though mitigated in recent releases, are probably going to > continue to present problems for some CL 1.x uses for the foreseeable > future. (The irony of a convenience feature causing such widespread > and tenacious trouble is not lost on me.) It, i.e. the irony, is the central message of my SLF4J talk. Choose your requirements very carefully, eliminating non essential features. It is easier said than done, but still worthwhile mentioning. -- Ceki G�lc� Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org